Rolled a mage with my wife and...

[Jokesteve]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i feel anyone that posted in this thread should owe me roughly 35 seconds, form a line to the left.

that said, we do not suspend or ban people on a whim. if you were suspended, we had a reason to do so. every staff member has to make a thread every time they ban or suspend a player, so that I or another staff member can look up the situation.

now, i noticed two sets of players crying that they were suspended. i have no doubts in the world that these people have wives that play EQ. that being said, players need to be aware of their situations as well. on the off chance that ALL of our detectors were giving false positives (near impossible, but whatever) i still like to send a tell. if you /q out, or, if you fail to respond to me for a few minutes, i have no choice but to assume that the time delay is due to nothing more than the husband running off to get his wife to sit at the computer.

having a wife and an exemption does not mean that if your wife doesnt feel like playing you get to 2box until a GM /tells you (at which time you go to get your wife).

also, believe it or not, how I treat players is based on how they treat the staff.

lastly - petition forum. if u want to discuss something, you need to make a petition. contrary to popular belief, nothing we read in the server chat or rnf is taken too seriously.

Ive said it before and Ill say it again, I think Sirkens one of the best GM's this server has to offer. With that being said, I do have a question for you Sirken. Is it possible by any stretch of the imagination that you decide to pop people with these tasks to verify themselves not AFK during say, autofollow'ing my gf to another place in the zone as I got to the restroom?

The scenario I'm playing out in my head is you've watched us for about 30 mins, and due to the autofollowing and little interaction from her shaman makes you decide to ask us both to do tasks as Im off using the restroom while autofollowing her. So obviously not going to see your tell right away, and quite possibly could result in a ban before I ever get back to my keyboard? (my gf is pretty lazy, rarely looks at chat even when we do play together I normally inform her of anything group says that is relevant) - this is also something that worries me if we were ever to have such situation.

What it really sounds like is that the staff makes you run in circles, do this and that while the other is doing something different or answering questions. And if we don't dance to your liking it will end up in a ban?

Its sad others have to ruin it for people like us who duo legitimately and thus force the staff to harass legit players.

[Duckforceone]

it's quite simple guys..

if you got an ip exemption, you have to play extra clean. If you are afk, put on an afk sign and stop moving around or xp'ing on the other character

if you got an ip exemtion, always check your chat, and have your chat windows turned on.

if you do the above, you should not be mistaken for a two boxer...

[Alovia]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive said it before and Ill say it again, I think Sirkens one of the best GM's this server has to offer. With that being said, I do have a question for you Sirken. Is it possible by any stretch of the imagination that you decide to pop people with these tasks to verify themselves not AFK during say, autofollow'ing my gf to another place in the zone as I got to the restroom?

The scenario I'm playing out in my head is you've watched us for about 30 mins, and due to the autofollowing and little interaction from her shaman makes you decide to ask us both to do tasks as Im off using the restroom while autofollowing her. So obviously not going to see your tell right away, and quite possibly could result in a ban before I ever get back to my keyboard? (my gf is pretty lazy, rarely looks at chat even when we do play together I normally inform her of anything group says that is relevant) - this is also something that worries me if we were ever to have such situation.

What it really sounds like is that the staff makes you run in circles, do this and that while the other is doing something different or answering questions. And if we don't dance to your liking it will end up in a ban?

Its sad others have to ruin it for people like us who duo legitimately and thus force the staff to harass legit players.

I can tell you that I don't target followers. I get lazy to when my husband is running. I afk run to. But af the tank in the middle of a battle is stupid, and a sign of boxing, but that's not going to be the reason for suspension.

We don't just watch you for af. We look at several things and for the most part they are pretty accurate.

Most boxers I have caught legitamently are really.2 people. They make a poor choice to box once without the person because they think they can get away with it.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mac codes can be clonned via router to appear the same for all pcs on the same network. Id hope thats not one of their methods of detection.

Well a router has its own MAC code. I'm no techie, but there's nothing to say they can't see the PC MAC codes that are playing EQ, or the dynamic IPs (xx.xx.xx.1 and xx.xx.xx.4 for example).

The point is, they have their detection methods - so the best way to not get caught is to not pull any quick tricks like buffing one account with the other, auto-following, and any other more subtle tell tell signs.

...if duos are unable to do this its a case of first world problems. Auto follow = laziness, buffing each other with only one at the computer is nice, yet unfair on the rest of us who don't have access to that, and there's probably all kinds of signs with poorly timed heals and such stuff.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Vladesch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're ok with innocent people getting the boot. All for the greater good eh?
Careful someone doesn't accuse you one day.

They're all innocent right? I don't box, I don't want to box, and I don't like 2-boxing. The fact that there's IP exemptions in the first place should be seen as a privelige, not a right.

Hate on me, I'm not bothered...you get caught being lazy or trying to get an edge on the rest of us, don't come crying on the forums - chances are you know what the "trigger" moment was when the GMs were onto you.

Give EQmac a try, they'll welcome more people and you can box to your heart's content.

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[Spoonerism]

I thought if you were suspected of 2 boxing they ported you to some magic land and made you and your partner run figure eights to prove that two different people are playing?

[Jokesteve]

Originally Posted by Alovia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can tell you that I don't target followers. I get lazy to when my husband is running. I afk run to. But af the tank in the middle of a battle is stupid, and a sign of boxing, but that's not going to be the reason for suspension.

We don't just watch you for af. We look at several things and for the most part they are pretty accurate.

Most boxers I have caught legitamently are really.2 people. They make a poor choice to box once without the person because they think they can get away with it.

This really is dancing around my question.

[Itap]

In order for the GMs to prevent and enforce boxing, casualties of war are going to happen. If my wife ever decided to play, I would advise against it, just in case this scenario ever happened. Maybe I was momentarily afk while my wife was playing, but since i couldn't prove it at the time, i could potentially be banned.

It's just a risk that i wouldn't really want to take. Boxing is against the rules and STRICTLY enforced on this server, I wouldn't want to lose my character because I auto-followed my wife while i went to take out the trash.

[SamwiseRed]

temptation is too great for some. lets say you and your woman are playing in KC. wife goes to make a sandwich when all of a sudden a huge train comes your way. your wife is a druid with evac up, do you cast it to save yourself and her (boxing) or do you gate and let wife die? personally id let wife die then corpse camp her but thats me. clean whistle for life.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

clean whistle for life.

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