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Old 02-07-2013, 10:17 AM
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Edit - summary of thread: blanket of forgetfulness sometimes apparently blurs multiple mobs (that are rooted near each other) successfully (as verified with hide + indifferent con), but then the mobs come running after me when roots wear off anyways even if I am far enough away that it was not re-aggro that was the issue.




[Thu Feb 07 09:10:36 2013] You begin casting Mesmerization.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:39 2013] A bottomless feaster has been mesmerized.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:39 2013] A bottomless feaster has been mesmerized.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:39 2013] You begin to hide...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:40 2013] a bottomless feaster scowls at you, ready to attack -- You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:41 2013] a bottomless feaster scowls at you, ready to attack -- You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:42 2013] You are no longer hidden.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:42 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:42 2013] You begin casting Blanket of Forgetfulness.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:42 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:45 2013] a hamal skeleton begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:47 2013] A bottomless feaster blinks a few times.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:47 2013] A bottomless feaster blinks a few times.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:50 2013] You begin to hide...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:51 2013] a bottomless feaster regards you indifferently -- You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:52 2013] a bottomless feaster regards you indifferently -- You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:55 2013] You forget Blanket of Forgetfulness.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:56 2013] Beginning to memorize Invisibility...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:57 2013] You have finished memorizing Invisibility.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:57 2013] You forget Bedlam.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:58 2013] Beginning to memorize Invisibility versus Undead...
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] You have finished memorizing Invisibility versus Undead.
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] ---------------------------
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] [57 Luminary] Hrak (Iksar) <Europa>
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gotcha <Europa>
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] [58 Preserver] Oakchops (Halfling) <Europa>
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] [59 Master] Chaucer (Human) <Europa>
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] [60 Phantasmist] Tecmos (Dark Elf) <The A-Team>
[Thu Feb 07 09:10:59 2013] There are 5 players in Howling Stones.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:01 2013] You are no longer hidden.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:02 2013] You begin casting Invisibility.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:05 2013] Your Mesmerization spell has worn off.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:06 2013] Your Mesmerization spell has worn off.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:07 2013] You vanish.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:11 2013] a hamal skeleton begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:13 2013] You appear.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:13 2013] You begin casting Invisibility versus Undead.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] Your bedlam fades.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] Your spell is interrupted.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A pyre golem tries to bash YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A sepulcher skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A sepulcher skeleton tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] The shimmer of runes fade.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] You writhe in the grip of agony. You have taken 41 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:16 2013] A sepulcher skeleton bashes YOU for 34 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] You begin casting Color Shift.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] A bottomless feaster hits YOU for 116 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] A bottomless feaster hits YOU for 46 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] Your spell is interrupted.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] A bottomless feaster bashes YOU for 23 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] A bottomless feaster hits YOU for 116 points of damage.
[Thu Feb 07 09:11:17 2013] A bottomless feaster bashes YOU for 31 points of damage.



I zoned into HS with IVU, aggrod 2 feasters, stunned them right in the middle of the entry area, mezzed them right there, then went up onto the safe point in the steps on south stairs, remezzed until Blanket of Forgetfulness was ready, hit them with BoF, hid successfully, conned them both... they're indifferent.

Then I invised past the pyre golems, opened the door into south, ran into the back right corner and started casting IVU. Suddenly the two golems are on me. They had assisted onto me because the feasters were coming at me, even though they were both indifferent when I was hidden and I was not close enough to have reaggrod them and I didn't cast anything on them after they were successfully blurred.

What's goin on here?
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:23 AM
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Shit. I was just about to try to reproduce this when a few people came in and started killing the feasters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:34 PM
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maybe the spell hit a mob below the zone in and didn't blur that mob successfully and he trained you?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:38 AM
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As far as I know blur cannot aggro something in and of itself.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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I had aggrod a few mobs that were resisting a lot of lulls, figuring they were higher-level and wanting to clear them out so they'd eventually repop as lower. Only one of the 3 turned out to be level 52 though, so I let my pet die then, as you can see in the log immediately below, I mezzed the 50 and the 51, hid, and saw that the sepulcher had blurred but the helot had not:

[Thu May 23 07:41:34 2013] You begin casting Mesmerization.
[Thu May 23 07:41:37 2013] A helot skeleton has been mesmerized.
[Thu May 23 07:41:37 2013] A sepulcher skeleton has been mesmerized.
[Thu May 23 07:41:41 2013] You begin to hide...
[Thu May 23 07:41:42 2013] a sepulcher skeleton regards you indifferently -- it appears to be quite formidable.
[Thu May 23 07:41:43 2013] a helot skeleton glares at you threateningly -- it appears to be quite formidable.


So I memmed my AE blur incase the couple AE mezzes I would cast while it was coming off cooldown didn't manage to blur both of the skeletons:

[Thu May 23 07:41:47 2013] Beginning to memorize Blanket of Forgetfulness...
[Thu May 23 07:41:48 2013] You have finished memorizing Blanket of Forgetfulness.


Hide failed twice while BoF was coming off cooldown though, so I didn't know if the two were still aggrod or not. So I hit them both with BoF. Then I hid and it was successful and both mobs were blurred, as you can see immediately below. I was not standing close enough to the two mobs that I could have reaggrod them when I went to move further back and my hide dropped.

[Thu May 23 07:42:07 2013] You begin casting Blanket of Forgetfulness.
[Thu May 23 07:42:12 2013] A helot skeleton blinks a few times.
[Thu May 23 07:42:12 2013] A sepulcher skeleton blinks a few times.
[Thu May 23 07:42:17 2013] You begin to hide...
[Thu May 23 07:42:17 2013] a helot skeleton regards you indifferently -- it appears to be quite formidable.
[Thu May 23 07:42:19 2013] a sepulcher skeleton regards you indifferently -- it appears to be quite formidable.
[Thu May 23 07:42:21 2013] You have moved and are no longer hidden!!


I was sitting out of aggro range, out of line of sight, medding and telling Save about how awesome I was so that I didn't need any rezzes from his paladin who is parked over near HS. Then, a minute later when the fetters I had on both mobs wore off, both mobs came at me (bro). The Color Shift i start on the third line of the log below is because the helot rounded the corner and started casting on me. Then the fetter on the sepulcher wears off too and he joins the party and they both smack me a few time before I stun, root, and run off to clear aggro by camping out:

[Thu May 23 07:43:30 2013] Your Fetter spell has worn off.
[Thu May 23 07:43:32 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:32 2013] You begin casting Color Shift.
[Thu May 23 07:43:32 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:32 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] a helot skeleton begins to cast a spell.
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:33 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:34 2013] Taking a screenshot...
[Thu May 23 07:43:34 2013] a helot skeleton's casting is interrupted!
[Thu May 23 07:43:34 2013] A helot skeleton is stunned by scintillating colors.
[Thu May 23 07:43:34 2013] Taking a screenshot...
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] Your Fetter spell has worn off.
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You begin casting Mesmerize.
[Thu May 23 07:43:36 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:37 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:37 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:37 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:37 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:37 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] Your spell is interrupted.
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] You begin casting Color Slant.
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] Your bedlam fades.
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] A sepulcher skeleton tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] A sepulcher skeleton tries to hit YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Thu May 23 07:43:38 2013] A sepulcher skeleton tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:39 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:40 2013] You haven't recovered yet...
[Thu May 23 07:43:40 2013] A sepulcher skeleton is dazzled by scintillating colors.
[Thu May 23 07:43:40 2013] A helot skeleton is dazzled by scintillating colors.




What's going on here?
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:17 AM
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Last patch they made it so that invisibility would not clear aggro upon a successful FD. Perhaps it has something to do with this? Both are mem-blur mechanics.

I was doing queen bee in sky one night recently, raid wipes / camps out as final bee spawns. I'm sitting far away invis when someone kites it over me, it ae's and I instantly re-invis with CoS, con it and I appear to have no aggro (Indifferent). I drop invis after queen bee resets and she makes a beeline (lol) to me and gives me the touch of death. She did not go anywhere near me until I dropped my invis.

I am not trying to hijack the thread, but simply pointing out other instances in which /con did not actually prove there was no aggro.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:34 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that kinda thing with my SK recently too. FD, stand up and instant CoS, con the mob = indifferent. It doesn't come at me. Then when invis drops any amount of time later, it comes chasing at me.

However, was my original post before the last patch?
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:09 PM
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I honestly just looked at the last post in which you provided logs. Your initial post was before the patch, which went live on February 18, 2013.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
As far as I know blur cannot aggro something in and of itself.
I generally felt this way, yet once, back in Kunark era, on live, some people were agroing guards in North Freeport. On Mith Marr this was the auction zone. I cast BoF to stop the fighting and then received agro from the guards. (I had done no prior activities to gain agro)
Not sure how I got the agro? Maybe it was from BoF landing on the player who had the guard's agro? Never did try to reproduce it though.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:00 PM
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Is it the spell wearing off that is causing the aggro? Or is it strictly invis that is the barrier between aggro?

The behavior doesn't replicate itself when already non-kos. Or maybe it does by 'regifting' the original amount of hate?
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