Please people learn how to play pet classes.

[Kainzo]

I'm an shadowknight and I almost always throw a few taunts in before breaking the mob, unless the enchanter is at high health and can take the beating.

[Vexden]

Originally Posted by Gandite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey an enchanter bitching about mez being broken. That's what I call fresh.

Apparently you have no idea what i'm talking about then.. I am bitching about people that don't read and think they know how the pet class works.

Mez being broken is part of the game, it will happen, it is the people that will state they have played this game for x number of years and to not tell them how to play their class.

I guess that just goes to show that people can suck for 10+ years at their class.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess that just goes to show that people can suck for 10+ years at their class.

When you got 3 50s, you cant do anything the wrong way. Its like gandalf showing up late, never happens.

[Arkis]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you got 3 50s, you cant do anything the wrong way. Its like gandalf showing up late, never happens.

This! Also, sometimes when in grind groups and I get frustrated enough that pets are breaking mez, I look at what it's attacking and charm it. Makes it stop attacking and just spam "NOT A LEGAL TARGET!"

[Wrei]

This thread makes me laugh hard ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a few points on the matter:

I'd say over 90% of all noob play mechanics can be avoided by NOT BEING LAZY. My rule of thumb is and always will be to NOT WASTE other people's time (which seems to be a foreign concept to many, many players on this server). When you do bitch about their play style you get:

1. Hey! Don't tell me how to play the game man, I was like the most uber vagina back in the day and could solo Dragons as a druid! I.e I'm the pro, your the noob theory.

2. This game is over 10 years old dude, so what I didn't assist and we wiped! This is not serious business! (the ones who will waste an hour of your time doing CR and really couldn't give a f*#@$)

3. I swear I sent my pet on the tank target but somehow he ran all over to that other group, must be server coding! (the guy who always has an explanation for everything)

4. This is the way i did it 10 years ago, this is the way i do things here. (the "set in their ways" people who are agreeable until you tell them to do things differently).

5. I lagged. (the common denominator when you know you fucked up but can't admit to it).

As an enchanter it's up to you to set standards for yourself and see what kind of behavior is acceptable to you. The care free people who don't care shouldn't have an issue with any of the above and take 20 times longer to reach 50. When I leveled up, I used a 2 strike system (Btw I'm not being critical of the casual gamer here, we all got different ways to enjoy the game). Anyone who repeated the same mistake was put on my probation list. If they repeat the same mistakes the next time I group with them, then they are put on the "not worth my time" list.

It's easy to throw a hissy fit when some people are noobing up your group. Just remember though that losing an enchanter is often more debilitating than most classes (especially in dungeons), and other players shouldn't be made to suffer because you leave the group abruptly (that imo is just as bad as the retard that made you leave in the first place). It's best to keep up the group, try to make small changes to improve things and make a note of X player. You do this often enough and soon you'll find players who exceed your expectations by a mile. Gather those players and start some semi perma groups, your grind to 50 will be a lot more bearable. Not to mention you'll make great friends by the time you hit 50.

As Robert F. Kennedy once said : "Don't get mad, get even"

PS:
1. Between casters who can't/won't control their pet
2. Tanks who break the wrong target.
3. Tanks who can't hold aggro or gain aggro
4. Melee dps who break the wrong mez
5. Melee dps who keep dps'ing the wrong target and do 99 mez break combos.
6. Caster dps who nuke the wrong target after a mez.( Because ducking is like wtf is that?)
7. Caster dps who dots the wrong target or all the targets (my fav)
8. Healers who try to make you join the purple club.
9. Healers who go down like a 2$ ho after initial heal aggro.
10. Puller who pulls 1 mob every 10min.
11. Puller who pulls 5 mobs while room is repopping.
12. Players who play EQ on their 486 and 28.8 modems with a 9 sec game delay.
13. Players who keep requesting haste (although you kept refreshing it 30 sec before it faded for over an hour).
14. Players who request the wrong buffs, healers wanting haste being the best.
15. Players who request every single buff that they and their mom can think of.
16. Players who die like a retard after you fully buffed them 5 sec into a trash mob encounter and then demands a full rebuff (Melee DPS dying to a DS from auto attack being the best.)
17. Players who ask you to do X buff even though you tell them the buffs are being made in rotation.
18. Horrible enchanters who don't know wtf mana management is or is about.
19. Horrible enchanters who do buffs on the fly in a raid scenario and go oom without telling anyone.
20. Players who don't carry the most basic equipment needed to raid. (no eb item being the best)
21. Zomg i could keep going forever but you guys should get the gist of this..

The point is your average enchanter needs therapy by the time they hit 50 from encountering all these noobs. Do you part and ask yourself: "Have you hugged an enchanter today?" Imagine a world without enchanters if all of them get burnt out! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ihealyou]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8. Healers who try to make you join the purple club.

I purple clubbed 3 tanks before level 10. NBD.

[Volga]

I didn't know that back off wiped the hate list, thanks for the post - I will be a better Necro for it.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I say pets, I am meaning any controllable pet, (unlike the Enchanter Pet)

Necro Pets
Mage Pets
Shaman Pets
Charmed Pets

I am wondering how many people actually know how to control their pet.

In the beginning, lower levels, this doesn't matter and I am wondering if this is why so many people I group with fight with me about this topic.

Being an Enchanter for many levels, many servers, I have had hit or miss on pug groups and people controlling their pets. I am not going to worry about how they used to work, as there have been many little tweaks to help us Enchanters when it comes to breaking our mez. I am only going to talk about how it works now.

First off let me say for those who don't know, MEZ has a HUGE aggro modifier. If a mob is Mezzed and then not broken by either A) mind wipe working applied first or B) by a Tank that knows how to break Mez then you are going to have a mob beating the crap out of the Enchanter.

What on earth could make this worse? A rampage pet that has a hatelist built up. Let me explain.

You're in a group, and a puller pulls 4 mobs. While the Enchanter locks down the 3 mobs (minus the 4th that the tank should now have aggro on) a lot of things can happen. Lets say for instance you assist and send the pet to beat on the one mob that the tank currently is on. While that pet is killing that mob, the other 3 mobs can do things to aggro that pet (even though the pet is still beating on the mob it was told to). A mob can cast an AE, it can heal, it can buff, it can actually physically hit the pet (or its owner) (all the while the pet is still being good and beating on the origional mob it was told to).

Now all is so far good, the Enchanter now has the 3 mobs on ice, and the 1st mob might be almost dead at this point. Here is where the Enchanters nightmare starts. Once that 1st mob dies, the pet that remembering all of the things that has happened during that time will now check its own hatelist. It then will go after which mob it wants to next on its own, and without any intervention from its owner, it will break mez. What makes things worse is if the tank breaks a different mob than the pet thinks should be next. So now you have 1 mob that the tank is on, and one mob that is beating the crap out of your enchanter, even if you mez this mob, the pet will keep breaking mez. (In a perfect senario, the mob would stop attacking after the mez, but this isn't always the case).

So this is how a Pet class should control his or her own pet.

After everything has been locked down (on ice, mezzed whatever), the owner of a pet should do the /pet back off command, and just reissue the /assist /pet attack command. When you do the pet back off, it wipes the hatelist from the pet so it will not break mez.

The reason for this post is because I am sick of being made out to be the "jerk" for telling someone how to control their pet. Even the ones that say they have 10 years of expierence playing their pet class. (And then afterwards complain in their guild chat about me for an hour)

Sorry for the Novel,

Discuss.

-Vexden


*edit* Thinking about this, it went from informational to a Rant, move to the section if needed.

I've forcefully tried breaking mez with my pet and I get the 'Sorry master, I am unable to awaken <target>" message, so you've got your facts wrong somewhere.

[Lazortag]

I have a hotkey that mezzes and tells my group that I'm mezzing the target. 25% of the time people attack it anyway while the tank is attacking another enemy. I honestly wonder why I ever group anymore.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've forcefully tried breaking mez with my pet and I get the 'Sorry master, I am unable to awaken <target>" message, so you've got your facts wrong somewhere.

You obviously missed the entire point of the message. You're part of the problem.