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arsenalpow · #21 01-28-2013, 11:18 AM

TMO is thoroughly focused on not even letting other guilds get a feel for VP. We've tried to go in and just learn about how to pull to certain areas but once you're discovered a dozen FD classes are on top of you training wave after wave of bullshit. I watched someone from TMO log on like 5 different characters and just suicide to train us in picture room. Who needs FD when you have access to a pile of keyed toons.

Snagglepuss · #22 01-28-2013, 11:19 AM

TMO needs to stop monopolizing raid mobs so the population will decrease again, and I can obtain more pixels and loot camps. TMO's needless mastery of the high end game is bringing too many people to the server. KC is no longer a Druid's wet dream, but rather a grouping character's dream. Woe be unto me! QQ

Autotune · #23 01-28-2013, 11:32 AM

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TMO is thoroughly focused on not even letting other guilds get a feel for VP. We've tried to go in and just learn about how to pull to certain areas but once you're discovered a dozen FD classes are on top of you training wave after wave of bullshit. I watched someone from TMO log on like 5 different characters and just suicide to train us in picture room. Who needs FD when you have access to a pile of keyed toons.

what is your point other than you don't like TMO killing VP targets. I am almost positive there isn't another guild that has the majority of loot from the other raid targets yet.

If you take a second and jump back, you'll notice that TMO is killing less targets outside of VP and FE is killing more.

Do us all a favor and stop whining and start progressing your guild. The only guild that should possibly be upset about not getting to raid in VP, would be FE. BDA has done very little of the raid content that is outside of VP.

radditsu · #24 01-28-2013, 11:53 AM

VP is not a difficult zone. Tedious, but not difficult. Most of the pathing is kinda borked so things like to randomly warp on pulls. A good pull team can get anything solo for the most part. I really do not remember being able to have Phara Dar at the entrance but whatever.

The only difficulty in VP right now is the trains. Those two weeks TMO got off for their sillyness a VERY ragtag bunch of individuals managed to down some dragons, with very small numbers. They are still 32k dragons. Stack some resists and dps burn them down. The only ones who SHOULD give trouble if there were no trains is Hoshkar and Nexona. Due to the Ae of Hosh and the HT of Nexona.

IF the other guilds just let FE do all the dirty work (training/counter training) and supply some cannon fodder for these dragons. I bet a coalition could get it done. It would be an ultimate Eff You to the establishment.

arsenalpow · #25 01-28-2013, 11:55 AM

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what is your point other than you don't like TMO killing VP targets. I am almost positive there isn't another guild that has the majority of loot from the other raid targets yet.

If you take a second and jump back, you'll notice that TMO is killing less targets outside of VP and FE is killing more.

Do us all a favor and stop whining and start progressing your guild. The only guild that should possibly be upset about not getting to raid in VP, would be FE. BDA has done very little of the raid content that is outside of VP.

You do realize that a large core of VP keyed players left BDA and went to FE right? FE has succeeded in getting non-VP targets by playing the game the way TMO had played it. Recruit tons of people over every time zone. Camp out fully buffed for every single target so that upon spawning the mob can be tagged/pulled/killed in under 60 seconds. That type of play style suits TMO and FE but our playerbase would rather raid as a guild and focus on those types of shenanigans periodically. Their way isn't wrong, in fact if the goal is to net kills then they're obviously doing it right, but we focus on more than just killing dragons.

I'm not whining, we just have no interest in playing the game that way. However, saying that killing non VP targets somehow entitles a guild to VP targets is preposterous considering that we took numerous targets before FE filled that vacuum. As a guild BDA has killed every stupid mob aside from hoshkar and Nexona (got her to 4%) so saying we've done very little content outside of VP is false.

Itap · #26 01-28-2013, 12:09 PM

How does every thread turn into a TMO rant?

Alarti0001 · #27 01-28-2013, 12:12 PM

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How does every thread turn into a TMO rant?

TMO is in everything and anything. We are why the economy crashed, and also why we dont have a human on Mars.

Alarti0001 · #28 01-28-2013, 12:14 PM

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You do realize that a large core of VP keyed players left BDA and went to FE right? FE has succeeded in getting non-VP targets by playing the game the way TMO had played it. Recruit tons of people over every time zone. Camp out fully buffed for every single target so that upon spawning the mob can be tagged/pulled/killed in under 60 seconds. That type of play style suits TMO and FE but our playerbase would rather raid as a guild and focus on those types of shenanigans periodically. Their way isn't wrong, in fact if the goal is to net kills then they're obviously doing it right, but we focus on more than just killing dragons.

I'm not whining, we just have no interest in playing the game that way. However, saying that killing non VP targets somehow entitles a guild to VP targets is preposterous considering that we took numerous targets before FE filled that vacuum. As a guild BDA has killed every stupid mob aside from hoshkar and Nexona (got her to 4%) so saying we've done very little content outside of VP is false.

Dude killing trakanon a few times over the course of years does not a VP guild make. FE has killed trakanon almost as much as BDA in a few weeks. FE is a realistic raid guild for this server. BDA is a casual idealist guild. EQ.... is ... not... casusal.

Alarti0001 · #29 01-28-2013, 12:15 PM

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We do stuff. It's not in patch notes or discussed because it doesn't affect current content.

Has everyone with a VP key considered showing up together and raiding VP..... whether TMO likes it or not?

Not trying to start a train war; just curious.

Nilbog and Developer crew.... got any more work for us testers?

arsenalpow · #30 01-28-2013, 12:15 PM

I don't know? Ask Autotune. I'm merely defending my initial statement that allowing training in VP is dumb and by converting VP to a normal zone it will open up more content for everyone because TMO will have to legitimately defend VP instead of using an army of trainers thus benefitting the entire top heavy raid scene.

Also, for the love of god put Dojo on variance.