Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone

[Triangle]

Pretty glad I am not involved in this raid scene. No changes that would effect TMO negatively have been implemented even when the changes have been warranted and requested by the majority of the community (whatever happened to the simulated patches w/ repops?). Many changes that effect everyone else negatively have been implemented (TMO gets to train everyone in VP but God forbid other people counter with mem blur). Giant crapfest in general with GM's more frequently than not catering to TMO.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Splorf the difference is that nobody knew blurring a dragon would reset it to full health when we did it to Talendor; we haven't done it since, though Coldblooded's kid did once to Sev on a full repop haha. We were just trying to KS a stolen pull.

Not true, it was known prior to Talendor. It was known on a fay pull, just not as known.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty glad I am not involved in this raid scene. No changes that would effect TMO negatively have been implemented even when the changes have been warranted and requested by the majority of the community (whatever happened to the simulated patches w/ repops?). Many changes that effect everyone else negatively have been implemented (TMO gets to train everyone in VP but God forbid other people counter with mem blur). Giant crapfest in general with GM's more frequently than not catering to TMO.

memblurring wasn't the problem.

Using memblur to Fully heal raid targets was the problem. If you don't know, it's not supposed to have that effect.

[Elements]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be mad that you've been wrong this entire time. Don't go killing yourself.

Looks like you have run out of material and are now just repeating yourself. Come up with something fresh or move your troll tears along.

[falkun]

When the Non-CSR stance was taken on VP, there were two forces actively raiding it, and they were FORCED to coexist and CSR WAS enforced. After the initial 24 hours period, the gloves came off and all hell was allowed to break loose. Why were these two initial forces granted preferential treatment and forced cooperation but now the senior forces do not have forced cooperation with new forces wishing to enter?

TMO was grandfathered in to VP, but the other forces do not have that luxury. TMO was given a two week period of non-contested VP loot, and competing forces were not allowed to train them, so they could set up their CoH locations and also pre-camp any forces for training or recovery purposes. I'm sure FE, BDA, or VD (when it existed) would trade 48 hours of no outside raid mobs for the protection inside VP that was granted to IB and TMO when VP was first opened.

Corrected edits in italics.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guilds participating in tonight's Veeshan's Peak opening need to be at the VP Door by 7 PM Eastern.

We will hold a discussion for the division of the mobs. Guilds that participate may not engage any raid mobs outside VP until 12:00 AM Monday.

After the first 24 hours of Veeshan's Peak, the zone will become a Non-Disputable Zone. CSR will not be responding or taking any action on disputes that involve the zone. You are on your own.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Veeshan's Peak will be released the same night the PvP Server goes live. This will be some time in early November. Keep an eye out for that announcement.

How it will work will be as follows. Any raid guild with sufficient force (Which I guess is only 2 of you right now, but things can always change) will need to be at the entrance to VP at a time and date to be specified. All guilds present will /random and will pick from the 6 mobs in order until all are chosen. They will then have until a second time that will be specified, most likely 24 hours, to kill their chosen mobs before they become free FTE.

Any guild that choses to raid VP on the night of opening will forfeit all other raid mobs for 48 hours. This is to encourage other smaller guilds a chance to experience raid encounters without them being slain minutes after spawning.

There's another quote discussing the alternating of VP raid targets for the first two spawns (two weeks, give or take variance), but I'm too lazy to hunt it down.

[Chedduh]

be careful there falkun, TMO actually thinks they earned VP

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Chedduh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

be careful there falkun, TMO actually thinks they earned VP

They busted their asses to get keys for VP prior to it opening. IB will claim they got lazy because they had been keyed for months and let TMO have keys, so believe whatever you claim. Either way, they were one of two forces keyed for VP when it opened. They were then GIVEN protected reign of the zone for 24 hours and GIVEN one full round of VP spawns. TMO has refused to acknowledge these FACTS for a year.

[Chedduh]

i was agreeing with you and you're right they don't acknowledge the facts of them getting that protection nor rarely admit to the multiple rotations allowing for keys/mobs/gear initially before their strangle hold that denies others the same

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like you have run out of material and are now just repeating yourself. Come up with something fresh or move your troll tears along.

You have added no material other than telling people they have no material. Offer up something yourself trollolololol

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They busted their asses to get keys for VP prior to it opening. IB will claim they got lazy because they had been keyed for months and let TMO have keys, so believe whatever you claim. Either way, they were one of two forces keyed for VP when it opened. They were then GIVEN protected reign of the zone for 24 hours and GIVEN one full round of VP spawns. TMO has refused to acknowledge these FACTS for a year.

How so? Everyone knows the first day was Rogean's rules. You think that gave us an advantage somehow? I am waiting for your point. Do you have one?