Greed rolls on this "classic server"

[theguyy]

Originally Posted by Acillatem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's not talking about NBG, he's talking about the same person winning multiple greed rolls. /shrug I always try to do a hand-me-down system when I put together a group.

5k item drops. Player A wins roll.
20k item drops. Player A wins roll, but hands 5k item to 2nd highest roller.

etc.

This is what I use and seems like the best option from what I've seen. Simply because the average p99 player is not trustworthy.

I've seen people roll need on an item and try to sell it in the same day while still wearing what they were wearing. When people pay monthly they care a lot more about their reputation then when it's free.

[mostbitter]

Essentially a bunch of greedy jerks set the precedent for the blue server and you get left with this awful blue server which should be inhabited by hand holding friendly types but is actually a less inviting community than counter strike

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 person can win 5 loots while no one else wins a damn thing?

normal greed roll usually implies that everyone can roll on everything regardless of CLASS requirements. But when person wins something, then he usually passes on rolling until everyone in the group gets some loot too, or he gives up what he allready won, or he trades the loot around, or something like that.

If one person keeps rolling and keeps taking all the loot - then yeah its loot whoring.

As for normal NBG see this

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=87365

[Ciel]

The random-ing for every greed drops stops people from getting their pricey loot, and just dropping out of group because they wont see anything else for a long time. If you alpha greed loot, that example could happen, but also could be unfair to new members joining, or vested group members. The hand-me-down system seems alright, but also seems like it could get jumbled up with new players coming and going from group.

Greed rolls also help entice level 60 people who don't need exp to join up with a 'pick up' group, if we're talking about higher-end grouping.

I like groups that random-greed everything, personally. Just fair all around. Could walk away with a lot of goodies one day, nothing the next. But again..check with group about loot-rules BEFORE something drops, or deal with the bitch-fest later.

[Slave]

What it comes down to is fairness. Anything that anyone ever wants to roll on, they can. Other methods leave too much open to interpretation and people taking advantage. Guild groups should be the opposite, which is effectively just people passing their rolls more. Easy.

[Llaile]

Trade up system ftw.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(P99) is actually a less inviting community than counter strike

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[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure it has not been argued since 99...Not on my server. I mean yeah there were people who did consider doing that but I never seen many of them at all even in pickup groups on live. If anyone played on rodcet nife they should be able to confirm that easy. It was a server wide consesus. There were also people who looted all the items off peoples corpses at one point too you know its a choice of how to play I just choose not to condone or be associated with people like that. The main reason I made this point is because it seems like a consesus on this server to do that but it wasn't a consesus on live probably because people who didn't play live created it..

Just because you weren't taking part in it (for whatever reason, your server, etc.) doesn't mean that it wasn't going on.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing the phrase "loot whore" and reading my first need vs. greed argument less than a month after the live launch. I'm not sure if the terms existed before EQ, but they were definitely in use and being argued about almost from launch day on EQ message boards.

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by Ciel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The random-ing for every greed drops stops people from getting their pricey loot, and just dropping out of group because they wont see anything else for a long time. If you alpha greed loot, that example could happen, but also could be unfair to new members joining, or vested group members. The hand-me-down system seems alright, but also seems like it could get jumbled up with new players coming and going from group.

Greed rolls also help entice level 60 people who don't need exp to join up with a 'pick up' group, if we're talking about higher-end grouping.

I like groups that random-greed everything, personally. Just fair all around. Could walk away with a lot of goodies one day, nothing the next. But again..check with group about loot-rules BEFORE something drops, or deal with the bitch-fest later.

I can see someone who wins 3-5 things a group saying its fair but not the person winning nothing because a loot system like this. bottom line it wasn't how it was in live for a reason. It was an option and worked well for profiling loot whores... Just so you know.

[Mishami]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you weren't taking part in it (for whatever reason, your server, etc.) doesn't mean that it wasn't going on.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing the phrase "loot whore" and reading my first need vs. greed argument less than a month after the live launch. I'm not sure if the terms existed before EQ, but they were definitely in use and being argued about almost from launch day on EQ message boards.

I did not take part in it because it inspires a bad personality type and for the last time I'm not talking about need before greed I'm talking about greed rolls and yes "loot whore" was invented because people wanting to roll on everything. I wish people had just actually played live so they know what they are talking about...