Ghaz's Plight

[rioisk]

IMO all these symbols are random filler. I think it's a little nonsensical to build EQ lore from what we "know" from classic back in 1999 and EQ2 now.

I think we need an explanation for why the dark elves have that symbol in their home city. Without that explanation we're ignoring something important.

[Phallax]

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I'm confident the Gnome we're looking for is Meldrath, the event in question was opening up Paineel. However, the version we need is GM controlled so he's not very important in the mino caves =P

The southeast emblem is of Bertoxx, it is the symbol of the Xolous who effectively created him. In EQOA lore the Xolous are the only thing feared by dragons, they worshiped disease. Consequently the dead hills lie where they used to live until Bertoxx removed it to the plane of disease.

Following the Xolous a new immortal race came to live in the Dead Hills who were obsessed with death and studying it. This was the Envar, the alien-esque race of Rodcet Knife (little known fact, he is actually the second prime healer).

A modern day (p99) version of this symbol are the Obelisks, which is a source of power for Bertoxx. As we know that the Xulous and Envar were all-powerful races, we also know that the Erudites appropriated it from a cache of knowledge they discovered which brought Norrath out of the Lost Age. Isn't it interesting that th heart of disease and the heart of healing - eternal enemies - came from the same area? Isn't it also interesting that upon openly using Necrotic powers the Erudites had their first civil war then split into two separate groups in Paineel and Erudin? What if the Xolous and Envar came from the same origins? The only hitch in this; Envar look like aliens.

Alot of this makes since. I had a guildmate tell me he was chosen by a GM to find the city of Envar, which is in the Dead Hills. If you look on the Classic cloth map or anymap online with only classic/kunark/velious. The Dead Hills are just south of Feerott but dont actually exist here.

[Cyrano]

It's not filler, the entire thing was planned before EQ was even created by the lore writers during the PNP sessions back in the day. Tony Garcia created Lucan (one of the central figures in this story arc), Mayong, etc. long before EQ was ever an idea.

[Cyrano]

In fact if you really think about it, this sigil represents the history of Norrath. If we can figure out the symbol's meanings we can discover the end of days and the release of EQ3.

This sigil comes in two parts, but there are more in the Shissar calendar which we have yet to see. I'd wager that most every significant event in EQ lore is portrayed there, ultimately it is a visual version of The Lore Bible.

First Part (EQ1):

In the center we have the creation of life on Norrath and one of the major driving storylines. Veeshan appears and creates life, Bristlebane - who had also created life in Underfoot - forms a pact with the next two gods to arrive, Tunare and Prexus, to quarantine Veeshan effectively limiting the powers of dragons so that the creations of other Gods may compete with them. Of the four outer runes we can view instances of destruction: the rune of sunder (luclin shattering), Rune of Xolous/Envar (creation of disease and the fall of the first Prime Healer), Rune of Rallos Zek (either the rise or fall of the Rallosian Army), and the X Rune (at this point presumably the end of the Shissar or of Days - via the Greenmist or something we don't know of).

Now two of the main story arcs in EQ are Dragons vs everyone and Dragons vs Dragons. We know that Kerafyrm was created by the mating of a Fire (red) and Ice (blue) dragon. What do Nagafen and Vox want more than anything? To consumate their love. What does the Circle of Veeshan forbid them from doing? Just that. Their goal is to create a second prismatic dragon and free themselves from the overbearing rule of Veeshan (read the prophecy of Kildrukuan).

In the mirror (EQ2) where do we see something similar? Oh yes, the introduction of Antonia (blue) and Lucan (red). The swords Claymore (blue) and Soulfire (red) which, as Qae pointed out, are representations of the hands of The Nameless. Who was the nameless? The creator of all. Aside from Gods who did he create? Theer. Who is Theer? The God Slayer. What did Theer have in possession? The hands of The Nameless. Who now holds these? Antonia and Lucan. Who holds the fate of the world? Mortals.

Now let's get to the second Sigil (blue):

In the center we now have was looks like arrows pointing in the cardinal directions but is is also the Ankh which is brandished on Mayong's face. Mayong is the second mortal to ascend to godhood, the first being Zebuxoruk. Who does Mayong hate? Dragons. To the left of this we see the Symbol of the Marrs which has been appropriated by Qeynos effectively representing Antonia (blue) and to the right we have the symbol of Lucan. Currently I do not know where he appropriated it. The north rune is that of a dragon ascending, this could mean many things but most likely is either the awakening of a sleeper or the arrival of Veeshan. Keep in mind that Kerafyrm might not be the first prismatic dragon and he certainly won't be the last, with that position at 12 there is a good chance this is a repeating history. Moving on, at 3 we have the rune of the void. Why is this important? All over norrath we have the sigil which Miragul used as a teleport between worlds and planes, near it is often firepots which are also use for world teleportation. In the EQ2 timeline (which was created when the timeline was ripped in PoP), we have the new Sigil. We have characters actively traveling between the void and we have shadowmen in both timelines meaning the void was certainly open in our Norrath. The opening of the void is most certainly what this represents, but to take it EVEN FURTHER we know that who returned to norrath in EQ2 through the void? Anatsi'Sul. Who was she? The first prime healer. Why was she banished? For creating disease (subsequently Bertoxx). What did she bring to EQ2? The Prophecy of Theer and the second Sigil. What else? Claymore and Soulfire.

New paragraph for your safety! Now at 6 we have the symbol of the combine. This still remains a mystery - was it only of the combine or was it appropriate? Have we seen this anywhere else? If it is simply the Combine, this could represent the ascension man and ultimately the mortal beings beginning the road towards power that rivals the Gods (this ends in PoP). At 9 we have the symbol of the Ratonga. I have yet to research this much however I believe these were the first beings created by Bristlebane due to the lore and history of what he was secretly doing in Underfoot when the pact against Veeshan was created.

So those of you stuck on this belonging to the Dark Elves need to take a step back and look at it in the entire scope of history. This symbol pops up in every EQ game out there, it's larger then just one race, era, or even timeline. It is the symbol that binds Norrath together and will eventually lead to it's demise. However at the time of total despair what are we to do? Look to the Alabaster Tower. Who is the God of Knowledge? Easy, that's the first human to ascend to Godhood; Zebuxoruk. Who were we helping recreate time in PoP? That's right, Zeb.

I think of the calendar as this. Rather than a clock or an actual calendar, it is a target with Norrath at the center and prophesied events hurling at it. Once all of them have occurred, the final struggle will begin and it's a multi-layered one. Dragons vs Dragons (Naggy,Vox, and Prismatic_Dragon_01/02/03 vs Veeshan et. al). Man vs Dragons (Mayong). Man vs Gods(Us). Gods vs Dragons. Read the prophecy, choose your Ew and this you shall know. All this is real.

[rioisk]

How is this related to the release of the plane of sky......i'm sure we're all wondering that....

[Qaedain]

Cyrano, can you offer a picture of the Bertoxxulesian symbols? I don't follow your logical leap of the Xulous.

Also, get on IRC.

[Leokaiser]

What has my curiosity piqued is, with all these EQ veterans running around and putting so much effort into this yet finding no obviously conclusive answers, how Mixxit can know with certainty what it all means - assuming he indeed does!

[rioisk]

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ruins in seafury island in OOT. This is the same symbol as the ruins outside mistmoore.

edit - my mistake what I meant to ask is why some druid rings work and others don't

[Ghaz]

This is the exact location where we encountered Al'kabor and received Miragul;s phylactery. Note the symbol on the stones littered throughout Miragul's caves.

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The symbol also looks like a crescent moon on it's side.

[Qaedain]

Updated pictogram:

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