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Old 10-19-2012, 11:20 AM
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Russia hates us? China hates us? Iran hates us?


Oh you just mean Leaders of their gov't ?

The populace is what matters.

Do you have any sense?
Do you have any sense? Who controls and sheepherds that populace in those country, man you really are slow.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:22 AM
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You are really going to sit here on these forums alarti and state that those populaces of people are in love with America. Man, I congrat you for the services you provided to our country. But you seriously do live in a la la land that you created out of thin air.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:25 AM
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Gold's main importance as a currency was the difficulty in counterfeiting it.

Gold's main purpose now is as a manufacturing material.

This fascination with gold is nothing more than economic crankery. Hayek didn't take it seriously and neither did Friedman.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:26 AM
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But keep it up Alarti, this is fun! Are you enjoying your Friday? I am [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but honestly, even with your delusions of grandeur, I do appreciate that you went and fought for our country.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:27 AM
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Yes, because paper money has had a much better history of success... No paper currency has survived longer than about 40 years. The US dollar has just crossed that threshold. Unlikely it will last another 40. Since you're a historical expert about the period of the articles of confederation, certainly you must know about the Continental, our nation's first experiment with paper money. The experience with that paper money is why the founders required money be backed by gold or silver, so that we wouldn't make such a horrible mistake again. And is it just a coincidence that poverty had decreased steadily during the period of the gold standard, and has flattened out and even increased slightly since we went off it?

You do not need the supply of money to grow at the same rate as the economy... Do you just read talking points from Paul Krugman? This argument has been refuted into irrelevance. If the economy grows faster than the supply of money, goods will become cheaper. You may need smaller denominations of currency, but you don't need a larger supply of money.

Finally, let's investigate your claim that if the top 100 companies paid 30% in corporate income taxes, we'd have a balanced budget. The market cap of the top 100 companies totals to $13.3T. We can assume the P/E is between 10 and 15, so let's put it at 13.3 to make it easy. That means these companies have 1 trillion dollars in earnings. Let's assume they currently pay 0 in taxes, which is a bit unlikely, but I'll give it to you. Raising the tax rate to 30% would increase tax revenues by $300B. This is only a small chunk of the $1.1T deficit. The actual tax rate of the largest corporations is about 18.5% right now (see source below), so your increase to 30% would lead to a $115B increase in federal revenue, which is 10% of the deficit. Way to solve the budget deficit buddy.

Info on corporate tax rates:
http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/03/news...axes/index.htm

I'm down for removing 115b per year out of our deficit.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM
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Gold's main importance as a currency was the difficulty in counterfeiting it.

Gold's main purpose now is as a manufacturing material.

This fascination with gold is nothing more than economic crankery. Hayek didn't take it seriously and neither did Friedman.
Umm no, the importance of gold as a standard for currency is because it is a precious metal and very rare to obtain. Please go to Wikipedia and read up on precious metals, if you would like to learn why it has been used for thousands of years as a major currency. Then come back here and attempt to edumicate us.
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You are really going to sit here on these forums alarti and state that those populaces of people are in love with America. Man, I congrat you for the services you provided to our country. But you seriously do live in a la la land that you created out of thin air.
Yes, I can state that, Have you been to any of those countries? Or is the only thing you can offer this forum is vitriol and assumption?

You said to me the other day that you think I am very smart. You are correct. However, judging on your posts here, you let others do your thinking for you. Go with your previous thought, and I will do your thinking for you, as you seem incapable.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM
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Gold's main importance as a currency was the difficulty in counterfeiting it.

Gold's main purpose now is as a manufacturing material.

This fascination with gold is nothing more than economic crankery. Hayek didn't take it seriously and neither did Friedman.
Gold is a valid currency as it is a finite resource with intrinsic value in manufacturing (now of electronics) and {misogynistic joke here}. Paper with pictures of dead old men on it is taken even less seriously.
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Umm no, the importance of gold as a standard for currency is because it is a precious metal and very rare to obtain. Please go to Wikipedia and read up on precious metals, if you would like to learn why it has been used for thousands of years as a major currency. Then come back here and attempt to edumicate us.
I understand you view this as a discussion, but it is not. I am not interested in your opinion.
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I understand you view this as a discussion, but it is not. I am not interested in your opinion.
Agreed if you only want to offer opinions as fact apply to Fox"news"
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