Dark Ascension...phallax, quite the char

[nicemace]

you guys are neglecting the fact that he wasnt at the camp.

no indication could have been given to phallax that the area was camped, no mobs were dead, no PC's were in the area of the camp, so he sat down and went at it.

youre a SK too, if you didnt want to kill, you could have at least sat in the room and feigned on the spawn location.

[Jaytee]

Doesn't seem like this really needed a thread. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are still bitter about us taking draco after he spawned on your raid and caused you guys to wipe.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys are neglecting the fact that he wasnt at the camp.

You're neglecting the fact that it is irrelevant according to the rules.

If you have no competition in the zone, you are more than welcome to hold as many as you like. The moment another party wants to claim a camp and you are "farming" multiple, you must decide which camp you want and forfeit the ones someone else is interested in.

This here ^^ is reflected through the camp check call.

[nicemace]

yeah, and so how would others know you are camping something unless you are there or you have killed the mobs..

as i said, no indication was given that the area was camped. so fair game imo.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, and so how would others know you are camping something unless you are there or you have killed the mobs..

Others would call a CC?

Really, I think we've been through this.

[nicemace]

not everyone calls CC, i know i dont, i just run to camp to see if anyone is there, or mobs are dead.

if mobs are dead and no one is there, then ill CC to find out what the dilly is with camp.

in this case, it was full spawn and no one around. looks like an open camp to me... pretty straight forward.

[oldhead]

gotta be at the camp to claim it. Simple rules.


with that said unless I was at the camp for 10 or 15 mins I would have given it back just to be polite

[eqholmes]

I would rather run to a camp to see if someone is there "camping it" then call a CC and have another person notice you cc no one claimed the camp and run there and beat me to it and claim that they were....My prime example is dino in OOT, far to many times have I CC to have the person not even be there. I would honestly rather waste my time running there and seeing if its camped myself.
This whole CC thing when you arrive at an uncamped mob to see if another person might be off somewhere else in the zone between spawns camping other mobs is pure crap.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not everyone calls CC, i know i dont, i just run to camp to see if anyone is there, or mobs are dead.

if mobs are dead and no one is there, then ill CC to find out what the dilly is with camp.

in this case, it was full spawn and no one around. looks like an open camp to me... pretty straight forward.

That's great. Unfortunately those aren't the formal rules in place.
As I stated, I think they current rules in place are flawed in many regards, but that's just the way they are written right now.

[nicemace]

as per the example used in the 'formal rules'

*Example* You are doing Ghoul Magi, Lord, and Frenzy in lguk. Another group arrives to claim a camp. If they stumble upon a spawned room devoid of players, they can claim it. Where your group resides is your camp; choose wisely.