2012 Presidential Debates

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

don't fool yourself, there are plenty of non-capitalist countries that score higher.

for example:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=...1#.UGyqHNXNkS8

just google Denmark

Now I'm not saying Socialism is the answer for a Nation the size as the U.S. but going around tooting a U.S.A is the best just because attitude isn't necessarily right.

and back to my original point, there is another option in the "Libertarian party" but the public won't get to hear their position, and that's a shame and not right in my book and I don't even agree with the Libertarians on a few issues, but still they're the only ones with a different opinions on many issues.

Not really fair to compare those kinds of ratings for the US vs micro-European countries. Denmark has a population of 5.5 million. That's about the same as Minnesota.

America isn't and can't be #1 in everything, just by virtue of its size. But it's the most powerful and richest nation in the world, and it ranks consistently well in just about every measure that relates to quality and longevity of life.

We don't get everything right, but unless you want to live in a tiny, culturally homogenous country that relies on others for its security, you can't do much better than the US.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True that.

And what's the alternative? Just let people starve so you don't have to feel envious of them at the check-out line?

Valar morghulis.

[Lexical]

Here is the link for the presidential debate in case anybody wants it: http://www.youtube.com/politics

[Tanthallas]

Lets just mimic England in the 19th century. Kids can sleep in bunk beds at the factories they work at and 90% of the population can be on the verge of starvation. That will teach those lazy sobs.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This kind of shit might have been acceptable 50+ years ago, but we live in the era of the internet and immediate information. There's really no excuse to be an idiot at this point.

No no, you've got that backwards.

The internet is the best excuse for being an idiot.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is a fucking embarrassment

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[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain.

It was a joke, idiot.

[Tarathiel]

fuck american politics, fuck a 2 party system, fuck corporate media

if you shit heads really think you have a "choice" at this years election then you are as blind as anne frank. your vote means shit

[XgrimX]

Originally Posted by Reikerz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The biggest problem with America is that it's filled with people like this guy.

I'm so glad that you picked one thing to bash out of my statement but ignored the other facts. I just said I watched the video and it showed insight as do most documentaries. I know damn right there are many biased video's and media coverage out there. I simply said "Obama has a different dream for America". Four years ago when Obama said "Change has come to America" I believe that he wants us to go to a European Socialized nation. How else do you explain people not working and living DEPENDENTLY off the Government?

If you can't agree with me from the above statement then I think you have missed the bus completely.

The problem is simply that people don't want to work. We have too many American's feeding from the government right now and they are stuck in a rut.

A rut meaning they would rather sit on their lazy asses and do nothing to live. Rather then to work for the same amount or more wages. This is the ENTIRE essence on why our economy is failing. When people don't have the money to buy merchandise from small businesses because they only have an EBT card and are broke as shit.

Bailouts and increasing the taxes will never help this problem It's only feeding a monster that continues to grow.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by XgrimX [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How else do you explain people not working and living DEPENDENTLY off the Government?

Level of Employment down

Wage rate down

Rate of Profit up

Unemployed people need to eat

Government taxes Employed people to feed Unemployed

Wage rate further suppressed

Rate of Profit goes up


But what you said makes great sense too...