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08-31-2012, 05:19 AM
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well i started up again since some rl friends wanted to play and family, my pops started up two weeks ago and is lvl 14,though he did most of the lvling himself, the last 4 lvls ive pl'd him in in cb and most of the time i always told him if peeps want to group let em group, doesnt matter you'll all get the same xp, but with that in mind, i never want to rip someone else off from a experiance i'm here for as well as others, but also most people pay for power leveling, when that happens, i figure shit im outta luck to xp here if on alts
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08-31-2012, 07:37 AM
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First thing to consider is that with the population numbers and the amount or percentage of new players that show up every few months, anything we say about this subject is not a direct correlation to Live (which we're basing our argument from) Someone mentioned that to Power Level is inherently wrong to EverQuest due to it being about community (grouping, coordinating etc). However under that premise, Power levels are as equally as wrong to EverQuest as twinking. Though while people still oppose twinking, it was and is a very ingrained part of the classic experience. Putting aside over the top twinking, the idea of not having that awful Bind on Equip feature that modern MMOs do, is part of EQ's charm. Being able to use, reuse, and hand me down items is a massive influence on play enjoyment, convenience and the market. Power level does not entirely eradicate the need for grouping - in that most power level is not a professional thing from level 1 to 60. Additionally there's plenty of things you cannot do with just two or three people. What it does do, is allow you to skip over the unnecessary leveling on another character. It also gives people a chance to catch up with one another - which becomes a problem when one person can't always get groups and another does. Agreed that multi boxing should not be such a taboo. One guy with two accounts at the same time is not going to be a complete group within himself, he's not going to be doing any epic mobs in Sky and he won't screw up the economy by having control over camps. They should allow up to one extra account per connection, though you still have to register it with them first. The real problem on the server is multi questing. We'd be in such a better place if that was taken away. | |||
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08-31-2012, 07:49 AM
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Wow.. are people really this anal retentive about PLing? Really?
Once in a blue moon (when I have a ton of RL time - which is damn near never) I sell some PL hours for plat and promptly end up giving away most of that - hell what do I need to buy except gate potions anymore? Whoever said if you're going to PL take them to a less populated zone - you're right on the money. Not only do you have more mobs to pull for the PL (if you're a halfway decent PL'er you should be clearing most zones that are sub 40) most importantly you won't piss off innocent XP groups! That being said the vast majority of my PLing falls under 2 categories - guildies/friends and random people I picked out for various reasons - boredom, they are nice/funny, I'm in a good mood, I need their services in trade etc. A good example is yesterday when I logged into OT at around 5pm. I wanted to get over to WC but my cap needed recharged (fail!). Being a monk I carry exactly 0 platinum. Thats our life. So I check my bags and lo and behold not a single gem to be found to donate for a port. Since I'd rather ride a boat for 20 minutes than ask a non guildie to spend mana and zone twice without donating to them I now have 2 options. I can either take the damn OT boat or offer to trade some PL time for a port. So yeah.. ask Posey and his rogue friend (sorry man I forget your name) - the guy I sent a random tell to in OT yesterday - if PLing is bad or ruining his game. Just an average 30 druid who was leveling with his rog friend. 35 mins later he's now 32. His friend gained a level and a half too. I got ported. Everyone is happy. I could have wasted my time taking the boat - benefiting no one one. Instead I decided to get creative and trade my services in the form of time and what my class is capable of doing for a port. Who the hell are you to be able to tell me I can't do that? Will you next tell the porters they can't trade ports for c2? Flippie Floppie the Master - 60 TMO Monk | ||
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08-31-2012, 07:53 AM
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the argument for boxing being good for the server is downright idiotic, if boxing were allowed the following will happen:
1) Everyone will level a cleric and druid and for the rest of the servers duration will have instant pocket reses and ports, never have to start a low level without high level buffs again! 2) Phinny, djarn, emp, etc (any hard encounter that requires group) will be perma camped by 1 person 3) due to #2 economy will suffer dramatically theres much more problems, and just use your brain and you can think of more ways boxing is a horrible idea (obviously just commenting on the people who are asking for boxing) | ||
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08-31-2012, 07:55 AM
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Every halfway good platinum generating camp can now officially be Duo'd. If you don't believe me check out the solo artists challenge where people have already duo'd such mobs as the Sebelite Protector - hits for 451 and can wipe out a small raid of 2-3 groups if things go bad. Fungi king would be farmed 24/7 by someone boxing. So would crypt. So would HS South, East, West - hell probably even North. Good luck finding somewhere to group or people motivated to group with when damn near every decent camp is taken by a person boxing. Also have fun with your ruined economy when there is a massive influx of farmed items into the market to the point a heiro cloak is sitting at 5k and a fungi at 15k. | |||
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08-31-2012, 10:17 AM
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08-31-2012, 10:38 AM
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too lazy to quote the idiot who said
"LIKE EVERYONE DOESNT HAVE A POCKET DRUID OR CLERIC ALREADY?" as some kind of reasoning for destroying this server and classic eq with boxing The answer is: No, you idiot, everyone does not have a pocket druid to port yourself or cleric to res yourself unless your boxing already. Also, ive been to the aforementioned camps thousands of times on the server and no, they are not perma camped by 2-3 people, lol (even if they are, than what does it have anything to do with this argument?) but they will be perma camped by 1 person if boxing was allowed (hence why its not) Your cries at making EQ easier and removing the need for any social interaction and disabling classic everquest will not work, go play wow you loser | ||
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08-31-2012, 11:13 AM
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Before I say anything else, I love that there is no (legal) boxing on the server, and we can all rest assured that there never well be.
That said, why in the world do you people keep yapping about how big-ticket camps being on lockdown by boxers would be "bad for the economy"? What is going to be bad about it? Hiero cloaks and fungis and GEBs and fingerbone hoops will all cost 1/4 of what they do right now. There isn't going to be a huge influx of PP. There isn't going to be a huge reduction of PP. There will just be more of those kinds of items available. The only people who get screwed when those items get cheap are the people who are currently farming those items to sell for PP. | ||
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