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View Poll Results: Do you believe ooc and auction should be returned to zone-only?
YES! I want ooc/auction to be per zone only. 383 52.39%
NO! I want ooc/auction to remain global wide. 348 47.61%
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Old 05-20-2010, 02:41 PM
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I've read the thread and voted no. You can turn it on when you need to use it or use shout to be zone specific in your chatting.

You CAN have parts of the game that you can turn off if you don't like it. Aside from the obvious of global /ooc and /auc, I'll say the bad word filter. You can play with it on so that you don't see curses. You can turn off /auc and /ooc when you don't use them, and use /shout for your zone specific needs. So shuttup and quit trolling with your bad self.

Also, you're a stupid-face.



...you stupid-face.
Go troll elsewhere. People like you are the exact reason why global OOC is such a shithole.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:03 PM
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You still have to meet them face-to-face in order to give them the money and get the items.
Yeah, still not the same. I guess the bigger issue is I don't want to put up with listening to dumb people bickering all day to get a good deal etc.. If I wanted to do that I'd sit in World of Warcraft trade chat.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:36 PM
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If trade chat, and lack of the classic EC Tunnel are the main issues, why not make Auction local and keep OOC global but disallow selling/trading? Perhaps disable item-linking in OOC?

It is after all out-of-character and it makes sense that everyone playing in the game should be able to interact with one another. Not to mention with the fairly small server population (relative to when EQ Live was still classic), finding a group will be much more difficult w/o global chat and I imagine a lot of people would be frustrated by this and stop playing altogether. Driving players away in the name of being "classic" seems counter-productive.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:51 PM
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Driving players away in the name of being "classic" seems counter-productive.

How does that drive people away? It's the way the game was meant to be played, has been played for 10 years, and the very reason the LFG command was introduced to the game in the first place.

Global OOC caters to trolls, idiots on soapboxes about politics/religion/you name it, and trash talking server celebrities.

That is why it doesn't belong here.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:05 PM
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i think if auction were to be kept for some reason couldnt it be rate limited to like one message every 5 or 10 minutes? that would give no one any incentive to speak in that channel and could be a good compromise if ooc were disabled on a global level.

either way i voted for the complete removal cause as nibbers said.... its not classic!
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:12 PM
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How does that drive people away?
It's often hard enough to find a group as it is and /lfg is an option that few people use or even know about. Without a global channel, it would get that much harder to find a group and I know a lot of people on p1999, like myself, play pretty much exclusively for the grouping/social aspect. Without an easy way to get in a group I can see a lot of people stopping altogether.

With any small server it's a pretty common administrative tactic to cater to as many people as possible if you want to attract and retain new players. You can just look at the poll results to see that nearly half the population is in favor of keeping a global channel, so removing it alienates a lot of players. However, keeping things as they are would alienate the other half, so in this instance a compromise would be the best solution.

Thus my suggestion to drop auction down to local and restore the classic trade zones while keeping ooc as a social/lfg channel.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:13 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, spam has very little to do with my desire for the removal of global channels. Global channels shrinks the world and makes it altogether less interesting to run into other people while you are out and about. New players you meet become more interesting when they aren't just some voice you can hear whenever. Being in less traveled zones becomes more exciting when you are on your own without a crowd of people talking at you. Going to a big city has a more unique feel when it is a rare occasion to interact with many people. I dunno...global chat just makes eq less of the game I am so excited to be playing again.

As for people's concerns about new players, there are still people around and I actually think someone is more likely to help a newbie out if there aren't 500 people right there that you can pass the job onto. Directing players to the forums is also always an option.

As for the low server population, I only see this as making it all the more interesting when you DO run into people because it is just not that common.

Perhaps I'm a little overzealous about this, but seeing global chat go away is a very exciting prospect for me.
I voted no. My reasons are simple: I like this server for its unique character which largely is due to the population of the server, or rather the individuals that make up the server population. We have a large group of people playing a game that is over ten years old, the graphics are horrible for contemporary standards, the mechanics are buggy leading to a lot of frustration at times and the pace can be downright interminable. But this does not deter our peers. We play this game because we love it and we want something that was taken away for the MMO experience all those years ago. The fact is we have a large group of like minded people who log on everyday, and I like feeling connected to these people. I like the sense of community that global channels bring to the server, when i see someone spamming or lfg or w/e, I can place that person in this community, remind myself, oh yes there is _____, I wonder how they have been doing, etc.

I do not understand why everyone has to get so derisive and vitriolic about this issue, it seems to conjure up feelings of deep hatred whenever it is mentioned.

As for the arguments of the opposition, my feelings are thus: the non-classic element is a moot point. We all know that we are not playing a legit classic server. There are many elements of the game, some for better some for worse, that are not classic. Frankly I don't care. I am very content playing on the present classic hybrid server we all enjoy today and is the bed rock for the huge success of an emu server. Secondly, the belief that ooc is filled with sexist/racist/political rants I find to be a huge overstatement. I hardly notice this happening and when I do i just stop looking at green text for awhile.

So far the only cogent argument that I feel has been able to make me question my own beliefs is the piece I quoted at the beginning of the post. Doomapple presents a good point. Perhaps server wide chat erodes personal, more meaningful connections one makes face to face by providing a glut of connectivity. It is hard to say, but I think if we did away with global chat it would produce a localizing effect as people would be less inclined to travel for 30 minutes to find their destination was barren.

just my thoughts.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:37 PM
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they only thing that is to be learned from this poll is that a lot of people are going to be pissed no matter what is done about this....sucks to be the devs :P
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:40 PM
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As for the arguments of the opposition, my feelings are thus: the non-classic element is a moot point. We all know that we are not playing a legit classic server. There are many elements of the game, some for better some for worse, that are not classic. Frankly I don't care. I am very content playing on the present classic hybrid server we all enjoy today and is the bed rock for the huge success of an emu server. Secondly, the belief that ooc is filled with sexist/racist/political rants I find to be a huge overstatement. I hardly notice this happening and when I do i just stop looking at green text for awhile.

just my thoughts.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:53 PM
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Go troll elsewhere. People like you are the exact reason why global OOC is such a shithole.
and absolute dicks like you are the reason people like me turn off ooc, much like i'm done with reading this thread.

thanks for jumping in for no reason and with nothing productive to say either way! dumbass!

also, youre a stupid-face!

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