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View Poll Results: Do you believe ooc and auction should be returned to zone-only?
YES! I want ooc/auction to be per zone only. 383 52.39%
NO! I want ooc/auction to remain global wide. 348 47.61%
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:19 AM
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I voted yes with a suggerstion. Make standard ooc zone only but why not make a global channel that people can join or leave as they please or as needed to use.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:21 AM
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Per-zone.

Global channels are like PoK stones for conversation.

Global OOC/Auction is IMO the most glaring non-classic item on the server (with the possible exception of boats). I hate making excuses for it when I try to get my old guildies to come to the server.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:34 AM
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Ordinarily I would vote to keep OOC/AUC zone-specific. Then I think back to all the rare opportunities I got to take advantage of because they are currently global. I've gotten lightning-fast groups, insane deals on items, rotting gear for free, navigation and countless tips and bits of information.
Your first paragraph kind of sums up why I don't like global channels. When you get rid of the challenge, risk, and time spent on geting something ( groups, drops ), it is less meaningful and less rewarding IMO, and that is one thing that EQ had that most other games lack.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:46 AM
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I hate making excuses for it when I try to get my old guildies to come to the server.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:57 AM
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For those crying that global ooc is not classic get over it. Roegan did a kick ass job in making it as classic as possible and enjoyable. If you don't like the /ooc spam... turn it off and wipe your vagina... There are too many people that don't play this game every waking hour and only have limited time to play... It is still very likely for me to log on with ~230 people online and when EQ first came out the numbers were in the thousands... I'm sorry but even when 500 people are online, usually only 5-10 of those people are lfg in the lower levels. Like someone mentioned before, i would bet money the people wanting /ooc off are the ones already in the higher levels & in a guild. It just doesn't make sense to only want that aspect taken out when many other things aren't 100% classic. Plain and simple there are still not enough people on at any given hour.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:12 PM
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For those crying that global ooc is not classic get over it. Roegan did a kick ass job in making it as classic as possible and enjoyable. If you don't like the /ooc spam... turn it off and wipe your vagina... There are too many people that don't play this game every waking hour and only have limited time to play... It is still very likely for me to log on with ~230 people online and when EQ first came out the numbers were in the thousands... I'm sorry but even when 500 people are online, usually only 5-10 of those people are lfg in the lower levels. Like someone mentioned before, i would bet money the people wanting /ooc off are the ones already in the higher levels & in a guild. It just doesn't make sense to only want that aspect taken out when many other things aren't 100% classic. Plain and simple there are still not enough people on at any given hour.
Let me read this piece by piece. First off, "get over it" statement, the same could be said to people who want global ooc to stay in (the minority atm). Yes, The devs have done an awesome job in recreating classic eq. Insult, insult. Personal situation. Irrational generalization (Im a 28 shaman, no guild). There are some non classic features still, but some of them cannot be changed, like item links, the sky graphic, the compass ( I think ). But there are still things that the devs have complete control of, like global channels, that are not classic and can be removed. They do, however, have no control over the population, and can only hope for the best there. Sorry for the ass-hole remark, through this wholde debate ive tried to be nice and respectful, some people go about it a different way though, thought I'd try it out : p
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:24 PM
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Your first paragraph kind of sums up why I don't like global channels. When you get rid of the challenge, risk, and time spent on geting something ( groups, drops ), it is less meaningful and less rewarding IMO, and that is one thing that EQ had that most other games lack.
I agree with you completely, but I think EQ is still completely it's own creature among MMOs. While it's easier to get the information via the global channels - saying something and doing something are two different things, most of all in EQ. You still have to work for your goodies.

You might know where something spawns, or even how to make it spawn, but that doesn't eliminate the step where you'll have to sit there for 32 hours and fend off camp thieves just to see a PH pop, or for it to drop something you don't want.

That, I feel, is what separates EQ from other games. Not the lack of communication, but the dedication necessary to accomplish something with the information you receive.

For me, the only thing that sours OOC are the idiots.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:49 PM
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For those crying that global ooc is not classic get over it. Roegan did a kick ass job in making it as classic as possible and enjoyable. If you don't like the /ooc spam... turn it off and wipe your vagina... .
It is hard for me to continue reading past this point. I do not like the ooc spam, and I'm responsible for the classic content you play.

It was never an issue of whether or not it would be kept permanently. It was *when* it would be turned off. When enough people are on, it can turn into a gigantic wall of scrolling gibberish. That's non-classic.

Let me spin a tale for you. If little "Johnny" had spent 2 more hours in Tox Forest learning how to play his character, without hearing the ooc spam of free PL session in Qeynos, you might have a better Wizard in your Guk group. If not *every* item was for sale, all the time, you might get excited by an item drop. It is supposed to be immersive.

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There are too many people that don't play this game every waking hour and only have limited time to play.
This argument didn't work in classic and still doesn't work now.

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It just doesn't make sense to only want that aspect taken out when many other things aren't 100% classic.
Are you implying that we have a giant ready-made list of classic material, just ready to implement? We slowly fix things as we can, and the game will continue to get more classic as you go. Or maybe you have these fixes ready to go for us. Oh goody goody. I'm guessing not though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your statement would then make sense, to argue that since not everything is 100% classic, that we shouldn't remove non classic things. Start reporting non-classic elements, provide fixes for them, or I don't see how it is relevant.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:03 PM
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I voted no, mainly because I think that there are decent arguments for both sides but those wanting change haven't met their burden of proof, so things should stay the same.

Still, if things were to change I wouldn't commit suicide, unlike some people.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:37 PM
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Say goodbye to ever:
finding gear,
Finding groups.
Finding rezzes
Finding ports,
Getting help if you're new and stuck in nektulos,
Finding help in general,
Finding someone to summon your corpse thats stuck in a gigantic vat of lava,
I'm sure I am missing more.

OOC can go for all i care but auction needs to stay.
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