Top Aggro Weapons Discussion

[fishingme]

Warrior aggro is all about procs, I'ved use a good portion of weapons listed above. I currently have sarnak warhammer + silken whip of ensaring. I've gone up against aggro with warriors lower level than i and they have won im thinking it was due to them having yak clubs. I'm thinking about making the switch

[Peppermintt]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hrmm... interesting. Could've sworn I'd read and heard that it was pretty easy to hold aggro with 2 wurmslayers or other good DPS weapons...

I've got a warrior ~ lvl 40 right now and I can tell you this isn't true. Monks/rogs/bard/slower will still pull aggro constantly. I end up spamming taunt hoping it works. And that's with a haste item. I'm sure it'll only get worse as I get higher in level.

2x SSoYs is better. Without a proc, I'm playing the same spam game outlined above. Once a proc goes off I can /afk cuz I know I'm not losing aggro. I plan on upgrading to 2x clubs soon.

[Barrier]

This is a good discussion but what about weapons for aggro from 1-30 or so? These are mostly about 40+.

[bizzum]

Originally Posted by Barrier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a good discussion but what about weapons for aggro from 1-30 or so? These are mostly about 40+.

A cheapie but a good one is Smoldering brand - procs from level 1 with a DD so its decent aggro at lower levels.

[Barrier]

What about Obsidian Shard? Any good? I know it procs at 16 but for 16-30 or so?

[Alkorin]

You want a proc with a stun component wherever possible. The actual damage isn't what's pulling aggro, it's the stun (whether resisted or not).

Obsidian Shard is fairly poor aggro, but every bit helps at lower levels.

[Rogean]

Stuns by themselves were generally worth 400 aggro on live (I can't confirm/deny off hand what it is here, should be similar).

As far as regular weapon aggro, keep in mind that aggro is based off swings, regardless of hit or miss, and the amount of aggro generated is based on a formula from the weapon's stats (I wrote the formula into code a while ago based on information from the steel warrior).

[Treats]

I sent this to Kanras back in August when I was messing around trying to figure this out.

As close as I got to the actual formula being used from the parses on SteelWarrior and Evilgamer.

Hate cap on initial aggro was fixed awhile back.

Original thread here with the links:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ate+generation

Melee Hate Generation

I've run tons of calculations through the numbers in this thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ate+generation

This is what I've come up with. It seems on P99 there is no Cap on initial aggro. Heres an example of how it worked on live:

Duoing in Karnors basement (Shaman and Monk)
Shaman goes to pull, stays out of aggro range
Casts slow runs back to Monk
Monk attacks once or twice and has aggro because of initial hate cap (as long as the slow was first aggro -- would not work if the mob aggroed and was running toward the shaman as the slow would count the full amount of hate)

Using an initial aggro cap of 50-75 hate this is what I got for everything listed in that huge post (weapon damage being the amount listed on the weapon, not what it actually hits for). Also each swing whether hit or miss uses the same calculation:

(Weap Damage + Damage Bonus) * 0.725 = One Hand Hate
(Weap Damage + Damage Bonus) * 1.1225 = Two Hand Hate

Probably not exactly how it was calculated back then but it's gotta be pretty darn close.

[Barrier]

Well, I just want a pair of weapons that will get me to 40 that will be decent aggro and will proc for me.

I was a warrior on live, but I started right at Velious and didn't really understand the best ways to get aggro until I actually had access to decent aggro weapons.

I remember it went something like proc pure hate was best, proc stun+dd was next, proc with just stun was 3rd, proc with a debuff was 4th, Proc that buffed you was 5th, proc with just a DD was 6th, and then just pure damage/good ratio was last.

So, may I ask a good dual wield set up that is good from either 1-40 or at least 1-30? Now, keep in mind, I'm normal and am not rich. So, two weapons at best together something under 10K at the very most.

[Alkorin]

That sounds about right, Barrier, with the exception (iirc) that a dd proc could actually be as high as #4 depending on the damage of the dd involved.