Why not play a monk?

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do faster attacks TRULY generate more aggro, assuming the same amount of damage over time is being dealt? Or is the aggro just being acquired more steadily, since there is less likelihood of going 5 seconds without any hits at all?

I'm no expert either, but on a very basic level I thought that aggro, or "hate" was a value directly correlated to damage done (or tried to do when regarding resisted dmg spells). Speed of attack determines who gets on the "hate list" first maybe, but over the course of a fight the character dealing the most damage is going to get the most "hate", hence aggro.

Rogue evade, ranger jolt, wizard concussion subtract from "hate". I don't know how FD does, except maybe just lets the MT catch up, per se?

[falkun]

As a bard, I REALLY appreciate having a monk, ENC, or shaman in the group. Any of those classes usually means that I do not have to run haste or slow or pull. Being everything in a group except for tank or healer, and only being able to do it for 12sec at a time, gets tiresome.

[Splorf22]

Legit reason not to play a monk: cause you can't farm camps for 4k+ plat per hour.

Of course, you can PL for 3k an hour once you get your haste belt and fungi, so :P

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legit reason not to play a monk: cause you can't farm camps for 4k+ plat per hour.

Of course, you can PL for 3k an hour once you get your haste belt and fungi, so :P

You can't? Why not?

[webrunner5]

Because with the Plat, Silver, Copper you will be overweight. AC goes to crap and you can't kill crap.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't? Why not?

As an enchanter I can solo any mob in upper sebilis except the emperor. I don't think a monk could solo any named there.

[Steaks]

good for you bluebie , farm those platinums so you can win at being gay

[leezard]

This isnt RnF, if you cannot actually add to the discussion, then don't post at all.

[godbox]

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good for you bluebie , farm those platinums so you can win at being gay

yur winuns at bein 1337 nerds gangbangders? lolz u c me hit dat noob and take hims fbss? lol /flex /pee

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good for you bluebie , farm those platinums so you can win at being gay

beautiful.



You're right, twice, and you don't even know it. Aggro should be generated per swing for starters, then on your net damage, finally factoring in any procs.

So for example, if you're swinging a big stick, lets say 100 damage 100 delay - sure when you connect you will likely garner aggro. However, if you are swinging once every 3ish seconds, to the 10-12 swings a rogue just dealt in that timeframe you may want to rethink your weapon choice.

Each swing - 1
Aggro per point of damage - 2

100/100 weapon over 10 seconds with 1 connected hit:

Swing 1: 1 aggro MISS no damage aggro
Swing 2: 1 aggro CONNECT 200 damage (100 damagex2 aggro per damage - 400+2 swings = 402 aggro)
Swing 3: 1 aggro MISS no damage aggro

NET - 403

Rogue over 10 seconds:

Swing 1: 1 MISS (1)
Swing 2: 1 CONNECT 20 (42)
Swing 3: 1 CONNECT 10 (63)
Swing 4: 1 MISS (1)
Swing 5: 1 MISS (1)
Swing 6: 1 MISS (1)
Swing 7: 1 CONNECT 25 (117)
Swing 8: 1 CONNECT 26 (170)
Swing 9: 1 CONNECT -backstab- 100 (371)
Swing 10: 1 CONNECT 20 (412)
Swing 11: 1 MISS (413)
Swing 12: 1 MISS (414)

NET - 414 aggro

Obviously this is just a rough example, the numbers though arbitrary, are consistant, however this does not whatsoever factor in Taunt etc.