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[fiegi]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon, thats a lot of disinformation you post -- so much youre even contradicting yourself.

LOL @ not knowing how to pull ghoul lord solo to anywhere in guk.

If only you had a clue -- but you're just retarded.

Known distributor of macroquest on blue.

[Kringe]

I mean I suppose, but that seems quite abit of a coincidence... Considering Reiker said they had petitioned/IRC/aimed 500 times right before we attempted.


But the other 4 kills (2 weeks before variation was removed) were "just missed" I suppose.

[fiegi]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know the fight was bugged and reported. What is it you are waiting to see?

The logs you said you had "seen" an hour ago

Which you couldn't of backpedaled quicker on

Just keeping it real.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by fiegi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Known distributor of macroquest on blue.

keep trolling, known pedophile!

[Nirgon]

So a screenshot of that mob dead in the Skarlon hallway with a bunch of people with no fire resist gear, after we took the strat from a member who was in the guild is not enough evidence.

You mention your opinion on the situation is irrelevant, where I believe it was entirely at your discretion outside of the rules that a public announcement was made regarding GM decisions enacted upon players/accounts/guilds. It seems that your opinion is quite relevant.

I think the answer is we regrettably have to say GMs did not monitor the kills after a bug (obvious after looking at logs) was posted. Unfortunate, but the case. Further we have to, as a community, understand that if a GM does not witness it, screen shots are irrelevant after we were told they would be. Okay, and moving on..

And in summary, the rule is if a GM does not witness, it is permitted despite contrary evidence and can expect that our shot to compete fairly is subject to spot checks (3 kills later for them, once after they report us).

I understand it is no one's "job" to watch every raid mob kill. Fair.

I understand if it's not witnessed (with great hesitation saying so because of the overwhelming evidence offered and considering our source of obtaining the exploit) that no action will be taken.

Where you lose me though, is can I really expect that on an off night if you see a log of me pulling Nagafen and only a mage and a druid killing it, that no action will be taken against me if a GM is not present?

A yes or no answer is the last nail in the coffin for many of us on that last point.

[Melveny]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon, thats a lot of disinformation you post -- so much youre even contradicting yourself.

LOL @ not knowing how to pull ghoul lord solo to anywhere in guk.

If only you had a clue -- but you're just retarded.

If you look close enough, the contradictions are coming from Rogean.

[Nizzarr]

ITT: lots of butthurt holocaust members

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was, actually.. I took the spawn times and made a note, and also got other guides involved. Mob spawned and wasn't engaged right away.. I would AFK in the lair to keep an eye on it but ultimately end up missing it either to being pre-occupied or sleeping or at work, as it was the same for other guides. Finally we did end up being present for one. I was thinking of developing an SMS system for when a mob is engaged...

I mean I'll chalk it up as our own fault..
But this leads and or opens a plethora of situations for the future..



When planes come out... Training (accidently,purposely, whatever commenses) ... Goes on for several weeks/months... Then you so happen to "withness" one "several months later (this of course is following suit that there is no GM interaction and or consequences, similar to what is happening now)... You decide... K Goodbye entire guild (cause someone batphoned you/irc/aimed whatever and you happened to feel like loggin in)..


This, I believe is what most of the community is wondering, if this is what we are to expect moving forward..

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where you lose me though, is can I really expect that on an off night if you see a log of me pulling Nagafen and only a mage and a druid killing it, that no action will be taken against me if a GM is not present?

A yes or no answer is the last nail in the coffin for many of us on that last point.

Depends.

How long was the fight, dDoes the log show the full damage of the mob's HP (The mob wasn't mem blurred)? etc...

Other miscellaneous things like that would need to be checked. At that point I would ban you, at the very least for an explanation (Which you wouldn't have if you didn't kill it legitimately).

[Jirr]

Just glanced through the logs is the book supposed to drop during classic? I thought it was kunark.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6123