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#61
12-16-2011, 01:05 AM
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I think with a bit of education, the occupy protesters can give some validity into what they are protesting for.
We live in a society where the rich get richer, the poor typically get poorer. Yes poor people can get rich, but it either takes luck, or a ridiculous amount of work that doesn't even guarantee a person a spot in a well paying job. A lot of work has become globalized, so you have big corporate heads paying Chinese to do things Americans can do. The Government is the next problem, bailing out corporations with your tax money, without the peoples consent. (Yes if you didn't bail them out 250,000 people wouldn't have jobs, but ultimately it is bad juju to screw over the other 299,750,000 people in the US) Foreign policy is another issue, where our government likes to stick its dick in every other country that we fear them being a problem to us. (Is it better to attack, or better to get attacked, then defend yourself?) Government regulation and Bureaucracies..OK so government regulation.. How often do you see new laws being put into place? all the time right? What about old laws getting thrown out? What this means is ultimately a society that is completely boxed in by law...Sounds a lot like communism to me. People need to have the flexibility to make mistakes (less laws), so people can evolve. The more laws and regulations just makes everyone as a whole, weaker. Ok and all these government departments..Department of Education, the federal reserve and the list goes on... Suck our tax dollars away for things that do little or no difference, or just make the situation worse. When was the last time the Government ran something nice? Go step into your local DMV. Cops have too much power. Look at what happened in Davis where a bunch of protestors were pepper sprayed while sitting down. If I did anything like that in the Marines I would get my ass beat, and court marshaled, at least. Career politicians is another mistake. Our founding fathers served their term, then went back to their farms. Bribery is something that is happening 'legally' when politicians run for office. Businesses commonly make many payments at the max level that a term runner can generally receive. Sounds like business is investing in its own future, not the peoples. In the 50's, CEO's made 10x the amount of their average worker. Today its 350x the amount. Wonder where all that pension money and retirement/healthcare benefits jobs offer have gone. Does an elite group of individuals really need 300 million a year to survive? Is that fair for the people doing all the work? People are human beings, and they are worth something. Large business such as Walmart is another issue. Huge businesses get so powerful they shut out small business, and make it very difficult for the prospectful small business owners to advance their companies. Walmart is so big the merchants that sell to them have to adhere to what walmart offers to pay them. If those companies don't, they will obviously go out of business. So yeah there are a lot of problems with our country. Which is still great and an example to some around the world. But as soon as everyone lets fear rule their lives, the same things that have happened throughout history in every other democracy will continue to happen. The Romans ultimately failed because of their financial problem. They spread their resources so thin and depended so heavily on slaves that the system crumbled.(I have a good resource for this, but will find it later) Class warfare started, the Romans had to deal with that and deal with people attacking them. Class warfare is happening now. There used to be a heavy middle class, small rich class, and small poor class. Now its a heavy poor class. Lastly read this, from the Declaration of Independence from the British. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. | ||
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#62
12-16-2011, 07:06 AM
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pretty much everything you just said is the reason that people are occupying public (or private) areas around the country and around the world (with varying levels of degree change in the sense of their own governments doing similar shit.. or for solidarity with the US group).
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#63
12-16-2011, 01:42 PM
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I am pushing for this to become a Civil Rights movement more than anything. Hoping for government to help in the sense of providing security for homeless and sick. Giving the US people some land to learn to become self industrious again. Will take a lot of troops to secure "camps" and some help for sanitary, medical and other issues and what not.
In that regard we can put our troops in a position of greater service, securing the lands given over to the people as we fuel a new socio-economic revolution. dojii 2012 everybody. everyday ya'll. no but truly, there is good to come from this. LETS MARCH DOWN DC!!!!! | ||
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