Ventrilo: Did it progress or destroy the MMORPG experience?

[Lucidus]

Didn't use voip in EQ, and pulled off some truly astounding clusterfuck encounters through a combination of group cohesion, /raid fk inc mem ae!!!, and a ton of luck.

Did use voip during my brief attempts at tolerating WoW, discovered everyone was a 11yo boy irl.

Leroy Jenkins is the result of vent/ts - dumbfuck can't be arsed to study the encounter because its easier to wipe and wait for the lecture from the raid leader.

[EnnoiaII]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Understood. So you admit your initial statement was an analogy? This whole thing would be over had you done that sooner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, but expect me to "talk shit" about whatever I want. I wasn't insulting you - just the analogy made. And yeah, again, it was an analogy. Maybe I could have been nicer about it or used more neutral language. That's fine - but I wasn't offensive in any way nor did I direct anger at you.



See, here's the real beginning of the "shit talking". And although it actually ended a few posts ago, the official end of real conversation is marked here.

I'll continue giving people the resources to help themselves and call it better than courtesy. You can waste your time assuming you know anything about someone else's character based solely on whether they give someone a loc in EQ.

Nah, he's right, you're a condescending prick. I'm fully aware of EQAtlas, Alla, and everything else...maybe I'm doing something where I can't tab out and get on a web browser.

[Flunklesnarkin]

My biggest concern with vent is how a lot of people view it as the "only" way to communicate..

typing can help during raids also.. its not like every body can speak at the same time on vent.

Idk if p99 can have custom chat channels (type) or what not.. but those do help out during raids.. like say a channel for healers.. so healers can communicate when casting long spells so they don't overlap or w/e.

I've been in guilds where people wouldn't do anything but chat in vent... I mean i like vent for raids and stuff.. but i dont want to have a headset on the entire time i play.

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Galacticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am an old school gamer. People ask me how I type so fast and in reality it was because I was forced to get good at typing to play games effectively.


There isn't a better way to teach someone to type then having them type to their friends about some funny shit or something important.

There are a lot of games that wouldn't be able to function the way they do without voice communication because there is just no time to type, and the people who make the game know you will have voice so they don't bother to put that time in.

For MMOs I like typing the most. You never forget what someone says because you can just scroll up, on voice you might not really understand them because of an accent or the distance between their mouth and mic. Its also better for conflict. There are always those people who say "No I didn't say that, or No he told me this and this and this". If it's typed its all there and you cant dispute it.

This ^. EQ isn't that difficult bros, and you sure as hell don't need vent to be sucessful in it. I get enough socialization irl school/work and from friends and family. Why would I wanna spend time girl chatting with some sausage fest nerds and gays. Voice communication for EQ is really only helpful in unique raid situations I guess, and if your guild/group is retarded enough to not see main assist/mezzed mobs called in guild/group chat. The majority of time p99 raid vents were hella boring and a cricket fest. I guess it could be diff if its a small group of friends in vent, but still this isn't counterstrike or call of duty. I'm tryna listen to music, tv, and or chill. Not listen to some gay fag kid who thinks hes a genius in vent lawl. /rantoff

[Flunklesnarkin]

worst thing is people who try to practice rapping in vent.. yah fake rapper dude.. im looking at you.. get out of my vent >:U

[Galelor]

Hate and love vent. Ended up spending my last year or 2 of EQ time raiding with a Euro guild on Xegony. Needless to say, vent would have been worthless for us... We were fairly high end, and did just fine without it. That said, there was an audio trigger for 'Heads Up' that people were 'required' to have set up. During the heat of tough encounters I basically did NO communication, because as a shaman in general I couldn't spare the keystrokes... Still, vent clearly has its place and has been very helpful and fun over the years.

Originally Posted by Galacticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am an old school gamer. People ask me how I type so fast and in reality it was because I was forced to get good at typing to play games effectively...

This is the best comment I have seen in this thread. I type 90-100 words a minute, and it is thanks to EQ and similar games. No other single skill helps me to be as effective at work than being able to type quickly and accurately. I have worked with programmers who hunt and peck, and I can at least double their output... As an overworked manager, I rely heavily on email communication and quick typing gets it done! (I actually got my start in IT because a friend of a friend saw me typing and using a computer one day before we went out for drinks...)

Excuse me sir, but we cannot hire you because you cannot type quickly or accurately enough to communicate effectively. I suggest you play EQ for 1 year and we will then reevaluate your application. Thank you, come again.

Video games are good for something after all!

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Haul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sausage fest nerds and gays.

ya

[citizen1080]

I do not like voice chat for EQ. Or most games in fact. I play to relax and the last thing I want is some retard shouting in my ear all evening.

I have led multiple raiding guilds in other games and I will say that voice chat makes things 1000x easier as a raid leader/guild leader. But unless I am filling that role I would rather not deal with it.