Item recharging is an exploit of game mechanics

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now for some unmoderated flame by samoht, in this thread:

It's up to you to report it when you feel like you have been personally attacked in server chat. If you felt slighted by his statements then you need to report it. I am not here to read every single thing that everybody writes in every single subforum. I respond to petitions.

The fact that server chat is not the place to get off topic by attacking people does not change.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is the hoop should be hurt not necros, sks and life tap proc weapons. I'm legit trying'ta be positive here.

I do not disagree with this.

[Nirgon]

I think its also up to your discretion to have a thicker skin when engaging in internet arguments :P.

[booter]

Yeah, the hoop nerf was all wrong. They should have just made the recharge cost astronomical for that item and left resists alone, instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think its also up to your discretion to have a thicker skin when engaging in internet arguments :P.

exactly. i don't mind if people sling some mud at me, or others, as long as i am given some discretionary lenience to do it as well. that's how debates in real life work. author credibility is always a factor. ad hominem is not always explicitly a fallacy if it is true and relevant to the topic at hand.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, the hoop nerf was all wrong. They should have just made the recharge cost astronomical for that item and left resists alone, instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Well it did need to be fixed quickly, and the problem is gone. It's a tweak I know the Big Emp can nail down whenever he has a minute. I'm not crying foul at all here, I'm just sayin'.

[Uaellaen]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trakanon is just one example of when it could get used. I used it because it is the premier raid target of the expansion until VP is released, and because he has a known health pool (32k HP). The hoop actually trivializes all current and future raids, not just Trakanon.

rofl, i wanna see you hoop cazic 2.0, or any NToV mob

[Uaellaen]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, the hoop nerf was all wrong. They should have just made the recharge cost astronomical for that item and left resists alone, instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

go look up the 17 previous threads where the devs replied that the lifetap "nerf" was going to happen anyway and was in line, changed from unresistable to a negative resist mod afaik, wich it should be ...

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rofl, i wanna see you hoop cazic 2.0, or any NToV mob

I just wanna see people be able to use their life taps on them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[john_savage1982]

I don't understand why this matter is even being discussed. Anybody who thinks that item recharging was intentional in classic and should exist here on P1999 have their heads in the sand. Does nobody realize how many "bugs" and "exploits" have been removed from P1999 in the name of balance? Item recharging is one of these bugs. I think that it is ridiculous to handle items on a case by case basis - or altering entire lines of spells - in order to try and balance the effects of a known exploit. How does that make sense? What sort of mental gymnastics do yall do to convince yourselves that item recharging makes sense?

I'll be the first to admit that some matters have shades of gray but this is so completely black and white that I'm flabbergasted anybody would even have the audacity to argue otherwise.