Some thoughts about cheating on P1999

[purist]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Care to go into detail about how the cheaters have affected your fun?

hm

whoa i'm stumped on that one bro, you truly are a modern day nietzsche tearing down our commonly held beliefs and instutitions

[RandySlopeJr]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hm

whoa i'm stumped on that one bro, you truly are a modern day nietzsche tearing down our commonly held beliefs and instutitions

lol

[Vohl]

What's funny here is that a poster is up in arms about cheating, yet cannot follow forums rules. Seriously - post something thoughtful yourself that isn't blatant bullying. What have you got to lose?

[Excellio]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Care to go into detail about how the cheaters have affected your fun?

I actually was wondering about this question myself.

Like, now that they're all banned, my experience doesn't really feel that different. I still don't have thousands of plat just like I didn't when the cheaters were going on with their cheating selves. I don't have much luck with kiting in any zone that I try to kite in, in the same way that I wasn't great at kiting back when these guys were duping Fungi Tunics.

... Maybe I'm just lousy at EQ, hah!

I don't know, but really, I can't figure out how this type of cheating directly affected my experience. I'm sure that many other non-cheaters could make the case that the cheaters diminished the experience for them. The truth is, I probably bought gear off of a cheater at a discount price that only a cheater could afford to sell stuff for. I don't know this for sure, and I actually don't have any great gear, so I guess I probably didn't do this.

But now that I think about it further, I do understand why cheating is so frowned upon. If it was accepted, everyone would be doing it and those of us who weren't would not have a game to play when we logged in. And then you'd end up with a watered down version of EQ reminiscent of playing Diablo 1 on the old battle.net thing, where absolutely everyone was using a trainer program.

I guess what I'm asking is for someone to explain how these players using these prohibited programs have affected my experience on P99, and what can I expect to change now that they're not doing it anymore.

[Convict]

It's already been established that cheating on a blue server doesn't directly affect the rest of the population as much as it does on a red server.

That doesn't make it any less against the rules.

[Excellio]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's already been established that cheating on a blue server doesn't directly affect the rest of the population as much as it does on a red server.

That doesn't make it any less against the rules.

Makes sense.

[Vohl]

I'd have to say that most people here were raised with the notion of good sportsmanship. Play by the rules, respect the game, and so on. The notion of people not doing so probably comes across as a strangely personal betrayal to some of the player base.

I think that, to a lesser extent, some people are looking for a way to increase their standing at the detriment of others. Social dominance games are also part of animal nature.

[Excellio]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Social dominance games are also part of animal nature.

The irony is that even the guy who cheats will likely regret having done so after some time when he accomplishes too much within the game in a short time.

I've noticed that when I play a game like Final Fantasy Tactics (which I play pretty frequently since it's the best game ever made, ever), if I start a new game, play it totally legit, I enjoy the heck out of it and work to accomplish stuff in the game. But when I make use of the glitches to cheat (duping items, learning abilities for free), I just build a super team of characters in the first 2 hours of gameplay, try them out in a fight or two, then get bored with it and never play that save again. The same is true of a game like The Sims. When I build a house by using the money cheat a whole bunch, I spend a lot of time designing an awesome house since I have unlimited money. But then I don't really play the game after designing the house. When I start a game with no cheats, I end up getting a lot more enjoyable time playing than I do when I use cheats.

I'm sure the same must be true of EverQuest. Having never cheated on EverQuest, I can't say this for sure, but it seems like this would be the case.

[RandySlopeJr]

Why you think TMO is getting away with cheating,hacking, an exploiting server?

[Excellio]

Originally Posted by RandySlopeJr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why you think TMO is getting away with cheating,hacking, an exploiting server?

I have no idea what TMO is, and therefore have no idea why they're getting away with doing these things.