Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?

[kjs86z2]

For a derp 6 man shit group in KC? Sure, SK/pally your heart out.

Good trio in better spots? War please, any day.

Also do you want to be basically useless at 60 or useful?

[PatChapp]

Useful of not at 60 isn't relevant to the question. Warriors do more dps than knights,but less agro. In a group with someone able to root anything it means nothing
Ide rather a monk either way

[Ripqozko]

id rather another enchanter pet and no melee

[Naethyn]

War, Clr, Enc, Enc, Enc, Enc

[Lampolo]

Good luck xping early 50's in seb or HS with a monk tanking that's not twinked

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck xping early 50's in seb or HS with a monk tanking that's not twinked

Yeah but that's like the highest possible kunark group content. You could still hit HS ent/basement/north and seb ng and possibly disco without gettin' a paddlin'.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck xping early 50's in seb or HS with a monk tanking that's not twinked

people exp without twinking 10 years into velious? wild

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By your definition rangers are better tanks since they have better aggro spells and damage compared to knights....

After all damage from exping mobs is serious business. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors do just fine aggro and do more damage than knights.

The aggro a ranger can generate over a knight is a touch higher. One look at defense skills and caps and it’s obviously an issue outside bumping. Also, most geared rangers have like 2.5-3k unbuffed hps. Most decent (low DKP) knights that are smart are sitting at mid 3k unbuffed and mid to high 5k buffed.

Also, sadly most rangers don’t do much more dps than knights. Lots of cheap primals and ToV 2’s for them.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The aggro a ranger can generate over a knight is a touch higher. One look at defense skills and caps and itÂ’s obviously an issue outside bumping. Also, most geared rangers have like 2.5-3k unbuffed hps. Most decent (low DKP) knights that are smart are sitting at mid 3k unbuffed and mid to high 5k buffed.

Also, sadly most rangers donÂ’t do much more dps than knights. Lots of cheap primals and ToV 2Â’s for them.

yeah no...

It is silly to say the class that shares the same aggro spell that can pull mobs off charmed creatures (as done by druids in WW) is only a 'touch' higher in generating aggro compared to knights.

When considering Rangers vs Knights, the general consensus is that Rangers will often do more raw damage (DPS) than Knights in a damage-dealing role.

Here's why:

Knights often tank: Knights when tanking in groups and raids focus on generating and maintaining aggro, often through low level spell spamming, which reduces their melee damage output.

Rangers focus on damage if tanking: Often focusing on maximizing their melee utilizing damaging spells (nukes, DoTs) as well.

While Knights and Rangers both have fast casting melee spells Rangers get two snap aggro damaging nukes (Call of Flame and Calefaction)

Rangers offense is at 252 and knights are still at 225

Rangers 2H is 250 while knights are 225

Rangers Double Attack is 245 while knights are 235

Rangers have a number of buffs that *proc damage* (and while knights do too they aren't equal)

Better utility spells for damage: Just about every root they have does damage and snare is cheap to cast.

Sorry but Rangers can gather more aggro than knights faster, do more damage and damage taken in a controlled exping group is very manageable.

This thread should really be about:

Enchanter, Necro and Druid Charmed pets are the best tanks and damage dealers in exping groups
Rangers got good damage and massive aggro in exping groups
Warriors got good damage and some aggro in exping groups
Monks got good damage and some aggro in exping groups
Knights got some damage and have a touch more aggro than a warrior in exping groups

[Ennewi]

Knights and war both have access to superior 2hers though, survivability included with Vulak axe proc.

Really though, cheap aggro on demand is the selling point, regardless of amount. Only so much aggro is absolutely necessary, even now with BIS DPS all over. Bards should be highest aggro, along with the potential for multiple targets at once because AE song radius.