Bring back the Dark Men of Odus

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by HookrsNBlow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How far does this conspiracy go?

i just wanna know what Swish meant by this, seems kinda racist

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what are cartoon men pointing at, is there something wrong with the color black?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, just answer the question: do you or do you not have access to every chat statement the guild members have ever made?

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

well said

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a bad faith question though. Because it's nonsensical. Of course none of us have access to EVERY SINGLE message EVERY SINGLE member of DMO ever typed.

What we DO have is all the messages they have ever put out in public channels, which never included racism. What we DO have is the fact that there were never any petitions submitted about racism in any P99 chat medium, whether in game or otherwise and that they were not banned for racism but rather for deleting the UN channel to troll Menden.

For the record, I never said these were good people, but from the day the guild was created they weren't making racist statements. Know how you know? Because if they had, you Loramin would be keeping a record of them in some file on your computer to throw out in posts like these. Because you live for shit like that.

At any rate, you were whining about freedom of speech in Off Topic. Seems like you like to pick and choose when that can apply lol

So you claimed DMO never said anything racist ... with no basis for that claim?

(And the reason I don't have a "record in some file on my computer" is because I don't go around making false claims that require such a file.)

[questever]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i just wanna know what Swish meant by this, seems kinda racist

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what are cartoon men pointing at, is there something wrong with the color black?

Ban him! Ban him right now!

[HookrsNBlow]

These people bring up the "well known facts" of UN deletion and racism by DMO

Yet they didn't delete the UN nor does anyone have any proof

Same kinds of people, same kinds of hoaxes, same kinds of repeating lies

Don't let politics invade your games, kids

The fun gets sucked out fast until all that's left is a bread line for pixels and the "old lady book club" version of R&F

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you claimed DMO never said anything racist ... with no basis for that claim?

(And the reason I don't have a "record in some file on my computer" is because I don't go around making false claims that require such a file.)

So you’re asking me to prove a negative? lol what

Why do you keep ignoring your double standard when it comes to freedom of speech?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by HookrsNBlow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These people bring up the "well known facts" of UN deletion and racism by DMO

Yet they didn't delete the UN nor does anyone have any proof

Same kinds of people, same kinds of hoaxes, same kinds of repeating lies

Don't let politics invade your games, kids

The fun gets sucked out fast until all that's left is a bread line for pixels and the "old lady book club" version of R&F

To be fair to both sides, now you’re not arguing in good faith. They did delete the UN and they admitted it. It was a totally dick move and completely unnecessary.

[HookrsNBlow]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair to both sides, now you’re not arguing in good faith. They did delete the UN and they admitted it. It was a totally dick move and completely unnecessary.

Now hold on a minute buddy, we can prove I am right by going to their Discord and asking them. They didn't delete anything. So you can retract that.

You can go to their discord and ask them, they did not do that.

It was done because the GMs rotated raid mobs, after intense lobbying and probably threats of mass quitting, when they promised not to. The UN channel as I am told was created for player agreements and there would be no rotated mobs. When that rotating happened, Phatez deleted it. DMO of course made light of it and continued to make fun of a 20+ Kedge raid wipe after it, in intentional disregard for the gravity of the situation.

The truth is it's a shame it all came to this and after a best effort to create a fair monthly open server raid with open rolls and a clean play encouraged but competitive raid scene. It just seems the friends I have from DMO will always be assailed by people who end up regretting it and stuck with what all it leaves behind.

[Cecily]

Yeah it was Seal Team that nuked wasnt it? Please fact check your grievances before whining about them.