Bring back the Dark Men of Odus

[Ennewi]

It's been how many years and no other creative guild was cobbled together by the same leadership.

No <Blue Man Group> comprised entirely of dark elves, allowing for rogues/bards with masks and all others with guises. No <Skeleton Crew> of necromancers, SKs, enchanters, and other Bert followers with AoNs? No <Fair Maidens of Faydwer>? Nothing to suggest a genuine interest in roleplaying. Granted, it was a cool idea but, as with most everything EQ-related, likely ruined by a few at the expense of the many.

Throughout the entire history of the project, count out the number of guilds that were disbanded by staff. You really have to go out of your way to get scattered to the four winds on here. One exception does come to mind, but even they weren't disbanded by staff directly.

[shovelquest]

It's actually based they got rid of that guild.

[ya.dingus]

Yeah I don't believe that for a second. This was politically motivated by tensions between members, and racism was just the scapegoat.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

racism was just the scapegoat.

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[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I don't believe that for a second. This was politically motivated by tensions between members, and racism was just the scapegoat.

Ah yes... "Help, I'm being repressed!" Solid forum roleplaying.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah yes... "Help, I'm being repressed!" Solid forum roleplaying.

Seemed to hit a nerve there to get this much interest.

Seems like there's a story to be told there.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seemed to hit a nerve there to get this much interest.

Seems like there's a story to be told there.

Eh it's just a shame that the thematic RP potential wasn't fully realized by the guild and instead it seemed to be reduced to what ends up in RNF.

Few guilds have managed to add in that part of classic nostalgia, simply by including self-imposed restrictions; requirements that fit a specific, immediately identifiable theme; etc.

This was prevalent in 1999, but has been largely absent on these servers, with the overall atmosphere being more MMO and less RPG. Granted, the latter is at times awkward and excessive. When done right though, without walls of text, there's something about it that changes interactions for the better. Ninik was a good example.

As cool as it is seeing full BiS or learning about the new meta/emergent gameplay amid so much jank, there's that other aspect of the game that's still there, lingering in the scenery while players sock windows and strafe for FTEs. The original idea behind the game, however dated.

[Reiwa]

I never got an adequate explanation from them as to what was 'Dark' about them if not their magic or their religion.

Nirgon was(is?) a Bircher though.

[Drueric]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now that we're out of the age of illogical, contradictory, woke policies that are as racist as they were incoherent, I move to bring back the Dark Men of Odus.

They were never racist, they were an RP guild, and it is my hope that the community has gained the IQ needed to recognize the difference between fantasy elves, trolls, ogres, dark elves, and erudites, hating each other (aka the faction and religion system), from actual real life racism.

Don't let this nonsense define the community -- I don't want to be placed in the same bucket as these post modernists who are legitimate racists.

There is an iksar only guild, so why is this an issue. (Ironically the GM of that guild isnt even an iksar....) Seems like any guild with exclusivity would also get the ban. I mean, if they dont, what does that say about the devs.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is an iksar only guild, so why is this an issue. (Ironically the GM of that guild isnt even an iksar....) Seems like any guild with exclusivity would also get the ban. I mean, if they dont, what does that say about the devs.

I think it says they aren't fooled by people being intentionally obnoxious.