In some ways TLPs play more classic than P99.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I sympathize with this for sure, it's the notorious classic mechanics VS classic behavior dilemma. In some ways it's kind of a neat facet of mmo's generally, because the same game can change so much. Mario 2 is the same every time you play it. But I had the exact same experience back on live in 1999-2001; I'd log in and it felt way more like an adventure.1. I have a lot of fond memories of gruelling CR's that resulted in no net XP gain, but you felt so relieved to get that corpse back and you remembered the people who helped make it happen.

2. One remedy (somewhat) to this is static groups where you schedule sessions in specific zones.

1. The recovery of a corpse was the reward on a net zero XP night.

2. I had an IRL personal friend 6 man static that lvled from 1 to 56. Before proper adult life interfered... if the halfling rog out lvled us we would make him play his fatty troll SK till we caught up. Someone lagged behind (missed play session or iks/mnk xp punishment) theyd be PLed.
Exactly like a dnd session but we could live all around Australia .

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone was trying to sell the first Jade Chokidai Prod (they claimed) for 9k plat in LOIO [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That sweaty early access to HS and the pixels within was important to some fat cats.

On P99 green I sold several HBCs for 5K [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] when it first launched. I got one on Oakwynd TLP when it first launched, and was shocked when someone gave me 3 Kronos for it. Is an HBC really worth $60?? Especially on TBC where we're like 2 weeks away from Kunark and Hiero cloaks??

[Reiwa]

Came here looking for the fire beetle pic, leaving disappointed.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Current and likely future TLP's are FTE now.

Everything live is eq2. You cannot kill steal. Nor do you have to worry about trains. Mobs go gray and reset.

It's not eq.

Plus, live doesn't have corpse retrieval. Zerg life.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Current and likely future TLP's are FTE now.

Everything live is eq2. You cannot kill steal. Nor do you have to worry about trains. Mobs go gray and reset.

It's not eq.

Plus, live doesn't have corpse retrieval. Zerg life.

I didn't know they made this the norm ( did they make this the norm? ) They were experimenting with this on Oakwynd the last time I played a couple of years ago, but it was actually even more toxic than the DPS race. Players from outside your camp could easily walk into your camp and steal your mobs and you couldn't stop them etc. Also if I recall Enchanters could just go around spamming mez on everything and lock entire camps down for hours (long duration mez super easy to use on TLP). Like to me it actually opened up more room for griefing. There was also certain abilities that made it easy to snipe mobs from people who had been camping them for hours? I think disarm was one of the fastest ways to snipe, but can't remember.

[shovelquest]

DPS races on TLPs is so much more fun than the fuckn weird larp we're doing here.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Fangbreaker is FTE and it's a good way to get banned, to complain about it.

Newer players are now a full generation in, of people who have no inherent fondness for the original mechanics.

On the live forums, suggesting the return of cr always brings stone silence because no one would play on such a thing. It's an olde game design that younger players call a "QoL" matter, not fun.

Quality of life. People want quality of life in everquest. They make the case for it, publicly, and are then taken seriously. The company, tells them their concerns are important.

Meanwhile Live is nothing but a money equation managing a warehoused IP, end of story. Quarm learned that lesson nicely.

[shovelquest]

On live i can greif you for the entire duration of the server and never get banned. There is no rules on live.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fangbreaker is FTE and it's a good way to get banned, to complain about it.

Newer players are now a full generation in, of people who have no inherent fondness for the original mechanics.

On the live forums, suggesting the return of cr always brings stone silence because no one would play on such a thing. It's an olde game design that younger players call a "QoL" matter, not fun.

Quality of life. People want quality of life in everquest. They make the case for it, publicly, and are then taken seriously. The company, tells them their concerns are important.

Meanwhile Live is nothing but a money equation managing a warehoused IP, end of story. Quarm learned that lesson nicely.

So weird though because all of the 20-somethings I play WoW with love Hardcore WoW because of the high stakes. I always tell them that EQ is always high stakes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]r.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Came here looking for the fire beetle pic, leaving disappointed.

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Having mobs walking around talking about the latest cash shop deals/promotions is surely in the works? Surely?