Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 83

shovelquest · #**821** 07-09-2025, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's not just two posters!

There are more people that have agreed with DSM in this thread, and just like 3 of the same people denying that obvious truth over and over.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**822** 07-09-2025, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's not just two posters! It's obvious: there are more soloers out there than the five or so people participating in this thread.

Let's say someone drives to Zura and Samo's house tonight and murders them: will that conclusively settle the "right" way to solo? I guarantee you it will not, and in a week, a month, or a year someone will disagree with you again.

My point is, there is no official way to solo, and there never will be. For this reason, the wiki will never be in the business of deciding the "right way" to solo. You (and everyone else in this thread) need to accept that fact.

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is not the best solution, because it's still picking a side. If the wiki is going to have an "official" Solo Artist Challenge page, then that page needs to be for all solo artists.

No Loramin, it is not picking a side. As far as I know nobody ever claimed that was the official solo challenge page for P99. I didn't. Yourself and OP brought up the page before i did lol. That is why people can make their own and use it.

If two children are arguing over a toy, you take the toy away. That is not picking a side, as neither child gets to play with the toy. It doesn't matter if you think one child somehow got an advantage over the other by having both children losing the toy.

Giving both children their own toys does solve the issue if they cannot share.

Also I have to say your examples are always weird. You've gone from racism to car theft to murder lol.

loramin · #**823** 07-09-2025, 01:56 PM

You're pretending the original page was "official". As the creator of that page, I can assure you it was wasn't. If you read the original version of the page, it says as much:

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The original Solo Artist Challenge was started in this forum thread by Loraen, but a new version which incorporates Velious is now being worked on by players in the forums.

To serve as a basis for this, I have included the original challenge below:

I just went with Loraen's version in the hope of creating a starting point for others to improve. Sadly, the forum thread I referenced went nowhere, and then instead of the page being improved, we got a forum/wiki fight.

But again, the wiki is not for anyone to enforce their playstyle on anyone else. It's to benefit the community, and I still believe a solo artist challenge page can do that ... as long as people start being cooperative and constructive instead of fighting.

Samoht · #**824** 07-09-2025, 02:00 PM

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As the creator of that page

Oh, shit. I didn't look that far back in the history, but that pretty much settles it. DSM does not get to dictate to anybody what they do with their own page. Looks like DSM needs to create his own fork of the SAC now...

DeathsSilkyMist · #**825** 07-09-2025, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretending the original page was "official". As the creator of that page, I can assure you it was wasn't. If you read the original version of the page, it says as much:

I just started with Loraen's version in the hope of creating a starting point for others to improve. Sadly, the forum thread I referenced went nowhere, and then instead of the page being improved, we got a forum/wiki fight.

But again, the wiki is not for anyone to enforce their playstyle on anyone else. It's to benefit the community, and I still believe a solo artist challenge page can do that ... as long as people start being cooperative and constructive instead of fighting.

I never said that the original page was official Loramin. You can literally check the post history.

Yourself and OP brought up the page first before I did lol. OP seems to be going off of that page for his video. He can correct me if I am wrong. Zuranthium and Samoht edited the wiki to change OP's rank to be lower.

loramin · #**826** 07-09-2025, 02:02 PM

Multiple people (yourself included) edited it to enforce their viewpoint. All of them (including you) were wrong to do so. Again, the wiki does not have many rules ... but "don't be an asshole, edit the wiki to make it better for everyone" is one of the rare golden ones it absolutely does have.

Now the page had an invitation to edit it, so I didn't apply wiki justice to anyone for editing it ... but now that I've been 100% clear with everyone involved, I will apply wiki penalties to anyone who edits ANY page for their own benefit instead of the community's.

(And I just wasted many hours of my life cleaning up thousands of spam posts from someone who disagreed ... don't test me.)

loramin · #**827** 07-09-2025, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, shit. I didn't look that far back in the history, but that pretty much settles it. DSM does not get to dictate to anybody what they do with their own page. Looks like DSM needs to create his own fork of the SAC now...

To be clear, it's not "my" page, or your's, or anyone else's. That's not how a wiki works: everything in it (except Magelo's and guides with names in them) is "owned" by everyone.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**828** 07-09-2025, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Multiple people (yourself included) edited it to enforce their viewpoint. All of them (including you) were wrong to do so. Again, the wiki does not have many rules ... but "don't be an asshole, edit the wiki to make it better for everyone" is one of the rare golden ones it absolutely does have.

Now the page had an invitation to edit it, so I didn't apply wiki justice to anyone for editing it ... but now that I've been 100% clear with everyone involved, I will apply wiki penalties to anyone who edits ANY page for their own benefit instead of the community's.

(And I just wasted many hours of my life cleaning up thousands of spam posts from someone who disagreed ... don't test me.)

I just reverted literal troll changes to the page. I did not add anything. Why are you defending people changing that wiki page to troll OP by giving him a lower score?

Samoht · #**829** 07-09-2025, 02:04 PM

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I did not add anything.

You never do...

loramin · #**830** 07-09-2025, 02:04 PM

I'm saying you were both wrong. Period, full stop.

They edited the wiki with their opinions, without getting consensus from the community or trying to make those edits work for the community. You just blindly undid their edits, instead of trying to incorporate them into the page in a way that works for both of you.

Again, the right way to edit the wiki is to think "what would be good for everyone reading this?" and make that change. No one involved did that, so you all failed.