Daybreak sues THJ

[cd288]

Unless there's something where P99 agreed to allow the IP holder to terminate the contract at any time for any reason, then the current holder doesn't have the legal ability to just terminate it. P99 could file to stop them, and win pretty easily (whether they would care to is obviously another matter).

P99 is fine. These other servers though, depends on what Daybreak wants to do.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they 100% can destroy it and should and THJ's database is on github its not hard to find [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they'd done it before the lawsuit got filed maybe, but now they can't

[Kutark Validus]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless there's something where P99 agreed to allow the IP holder to terminate the contract at any time for any reason, then the current holder doesn't have the legal ability to just terminate it. P99 could file to stop them, and win pretty easily (whether they would care to is obviously another matter).

P99 is fine. These other servers though, depends on what Daybreak wants to do.

Exactly

[Ekco]

pointless to argue about it because the document is private, but your basically assuming altruism in a document with zero clauses that can be exercised by the *checks notes* corporation with regards to a fan made emulator server who had access to their own legal department

CEOs like the costco dude who wants to punch someone over changing of the hotdog price exist, but they are the exception that proves the rule

i will gladly take the non hopium side of this bet and be pleasantly surprised if proven wrong, but i bet i won't be.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pointless to argue about it because the document is private, but your basically assuming altruism in a document with zero clauses that can be exercised by the *checks notes* corporation with regards to a fan made emulator server who had access to their own legal department

CEOs like the costco dude who wants to punch someone over changing of the hotdog price exist, but they are the exception that proves the rule

i will gladly take the non hopium side of this bet and be pleasantly surprised if proven wrong, but i bet i won't be.

No, see I'm an expert and high priced corporate lawyers would definitely set their organization up to be in breach. It's just basic law.

[magnetaress]

I just want a new solo play game with EQs art style and fidelity. And depth. M&M will be good butt it's going to be grindy and require a beefier computer. M&M art assets take more time than EQs to develop too. Because of slightly more fidelity, newer engine.

Don't get me wrong M&M will be a blockbuster butt it's not going to be the next big paradigm. And no triple A studio will do what I'm talking about because they can never sell a new game with newer zoomer hardware requirements.

Butt imagine if EQ was more like morrowind or skyrim and just kept releasing expansions with Kunark and velious grade graphics for lvls 1-60 for 40 years.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pointless to argue about it because the document is private, but your basically assuming altruism in a document with zero clauses that can be exercised by the *checks notes* corporation with regards to a fan made emulator server who had access to their own legal department

CEOs like the costco dude who wants to punch someone over changing of the hotdog price exist, but they are the exception that proves the rule

i will gladly take the non hopium side of this bet and be pleasantly surprised if proven wrong, but i bet i won't be.

I didn't assume anything. I said P99 could've agreed to an anytime/any reason termination clause in the agreement. If they did, then yeah Daybreak could revoke it at any time.

Otherwise, if the agreement doesn't allow termination for any reason/without cause, then P99 has strong legal arguments if Daybreak tried to pull the rug on them.

Although, going back to the scenario where there is an for any reason termination clause, even there you could have estoppel arguments depending on what was said during the contractual negotiations. For example, if you have that provision but Daybreak wrote in an email "Don't worry, this is just belt and suspenders, we will never terminate the agreement as long as you never go past Velious" you could try and use that. Written representations like that can be deemed a modification of the terms of the language in the contract. Now, that's a much harder argument to make, but it's also not impossible.

[Eagish]

Seems like THJ selling in game benefits under the guise of donations is markedly different from P99 taking donations to run the game. I can see how THJ attracted the unwanted attention, and then being really successful was probably a bad move, lol.

[Penish]

omg thj is back up alrdy come plays wif me

[shovelquest]

Why do gamers have to pretend like not only are they gamers, but they are lawyers?

Why is that the way it is in every gamer discussion about anything everywhere?