Starting stats for ranger

[kjs86z2]

Everyone always forgets just how long it takes a normal person to level on P99.

Until you have a ton of STR from gear....every time you log in you'll benefit from that extra carrying capacity. Its a tangible benefit right from level 1. The slightly higher melee swings is icing on the nerd-cake.

This is a no brainer with the only exception being if you're going to bee-line straight to 60 and acquire tons of DKP in a top end raid guild....and by then its trivial anyway.

[Jimjam]

I think the value of str largely depends on how fastiduous you may be in visiting vendors to dump trash.

If you go super often and never get encumbered it loses a lot of value. If you go super rarely and get little value out of trash loot it loses a lot of value.

If you go frequently and are limited to what you can carry by str then that is the sweet spot - you'll often be getting an extra 20pp (four fine steel weapons) of loot, which isn't a lot, but it will add up if you do it fairly frequently.

With rangers having sneak/harmony they can be quite aggresive shoppers, selling pretty much anywhere.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone always forgets just how long it takes a normal person to level on P99.

Until you have a ton of STR from gear....every time you log in you'll benefit from that extra carrying capacity. Its a tangible benefit right from level 1. The slightly higher melee swings is icing on the nerd-cake.

This is a no brainer with the only exception being if you're going to bee-line straight to 60 and acquire tons of DKP in a top end raid guild....and by then its trivial anyway.

There are plenty of ways to offset weight. There is a lot of cheap STR gear, and everybody gets WR bags.

STR is an ok choice if you are specifically doing something like a solo self found run, or this is your very first char. Then it will be more difficult to come by STR gear and WR bags.

Otherwise in 2025, most people have enough plat to twink their new char with some cheap STR items and WR bags.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the value of str largely depends on how fastiduous you may be in visiting vendors to dump trash.

If you go super often and never get encumbered it loses a lot of value. If you go super rarely and get little value out of trash loot it loses a lot of value.

If you go frequently and are limited to what you can carry by str then that is the sweet spot - you'll often be getting an extra 20pp (four fine steel weapons) of loot, which isn't a lot, but it will add up if you do it fairly frequently.

With rangers having sneak/harmony they can be quite aggresive shoppers, selling pretty much anywhere.

Correct.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Lyta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi

I'm creating a new human ranger and i'm unsue where to put my stats

The plan is to mostly solo and play alone, when i reach endgame and have my epics where would i wish i had put my stats?

Depends a bit on what you mean by endgame I suppose. If you're mostly solo does that mean you aren't going too hard after raid gear? Or do you mean gearing up with raiding and then playing solo?

I went strength and I'm happy with that decision at 54 with pretty good EC gear. Stamina might be theoretical min/max but I think you'll be pretty darn far into the endgame before capping strength self-buffed. If you're planning to optimize for BIS gear then you can draw up a magelo with your planned gear and see what stats are uncapped. I'd only recommend stamina if you're the sort of person whose enjoyment of the game is substantially impacted by regret from overcapping strength when you're fully BIS.

Wisdom is a fine choice and more mana is always better, but I've never once felt mana-constrained. Right now the stat I most want to upgrade is dex. Especially solo, being able to reliably proc Swamcaller or Earthcaller at the start of the fight is a big benefit, and there's several other weapons with useful procs you may pick up along the way. I don't think I'd trade the 20 into strength with dex but it's the only other allocation I'd consider.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WIS is also a decent choice, as that stat is harder to come by on melee gear. Velious melee gear tends to be generous with STR and STA.

Good point.