monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t mean to be rude, cynical, or cruel to you. Many of us have tried many times to explain our positions and the varied approach is often just a desperate attempt to finally land some shared understanding. Time and time again though it’s clear your mind cannot be swayed nor do you provide specifics which will allow us to suspend disbelief long enough to confirm. We all argues for about 10 pages why a level 5 turtle wouldn’t return accurate data. I’ve run hours on Bloodmaw controlling every variable and the data simply isn’t useful. I don’t take it personal wasting hours of my time, this is EQ… I just look for a better way.

I'll condense my previous post's point as much as possible. People often times mis-read or skim longer posts.

Objectively speaking, would you believe a "noob" who makes posts like this:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440

Or an "expert" who makes posts like this:

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can beg me for my parses all you want. You can go get your own damn parses for all I care. Whether I post my parses or not ... whether you shit on them or not ... whether you care to believe them or whatever the heck you are inclined to believe ...none of it changes in game *reality*. Those with the tools and the experience know the truth.

This is why the "experts" aren't very convincing on the P99 forums. They are quick to make fools of themselves, and slow to provide data and evidence. It doesn't matter what you know if you can't back it up. You won't convince anyone by acting like an asshole either.

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no need for charts and analysis and other bull shit. Peacebringer til Epic, then Epic + SoS(offhand) until raid gear. You're welcome.

This thread was answered on reply #3, how did it get 50 pages

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread was answered on reply #3, how did it get 50 pages

Trolls like Troxx spam the thread when people disagree with them. Same as all the other threads like this.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you are trying to be as scientifically accurate as possible, you don't want averaging problems. You don't want bugs in the code to throw your parses off. You don't want to say "good enough" when you lose 20% of another players parse when you walk out of range. You don't want inaccurate spell damage.

I am not sure why people are so against providing logs when we are trying to be precise and figure out the damage formulas. Logs also give context to what you were doing, because that can matter sometimes.

It's not hard to do, and other people can parse it for you.

Man, I don't know how to put this, but no one gives a shit about the damage formulas. I do, you kinda do, and one or two people kinda do. No one else cares. All they care about is dps against raid mobs, because that's all that matters when raiding. And I'm not criticizing them for that. That's the reasonable thing to do if you just want to play the game. Snaggles just put down a lot of wisdom if you are able to open your mind enough to accept it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man, I don't know how to put this, but no one gives a shit about the damage formulas. I do, you kinda do, and one or two people kinda do. No one else cares. All they care about is dps against raid mobs, because that's all that matters when raiding. And I'm not criticizing them for that. That's the reasonable thing to do if you just want to play the game. Snaggles just put down a lot of wisdom if you are able to open your mind enough to accept it.

"Nobody cares that you do not care about damage formulas.

I put a lot of wisdom into your mind if you are open enough to accept it."

See? I can do it too! We are at an impasse, but I still have data, logic, and a damage formula. You don't have these things.

For people interested in the damage formula, real data from the game, and not silly waste-of-time posts like this, please read:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Nobody cares that you do not care about damage formulas.

You are quite clearly begging people to care about your damage formula, but no one seems to be interested.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are quite clearly begging people to care about your damage formula, but no one seems to be interested.

I find it kind sad Bcbrown just mimics Troxx when he's lost an argument. This is ego talking when you think other people are begging.

Originally Posted by deadeyedick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am currently a level 16 human monk I have researched a bit about these questions and having trouble finding answers to these questions there seems to be some debate.

what is the math to understand a weapons delay to damage ratio?

what type of weapon is best in the main hand ?

1. a higher delay higher damage?
2. lower delay lower damage?

what type of weapon is best in the off hand ?

1. a higher delay higher damage?
2. lower delay lower damage?

when does this change to 2hb and then back to 1hb?

thanks

Remember OP? He wants to know the math. For OP, plesse read this:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440

For posters like Bcbrown who don't care and simply copy what Troxx says, feel free to ignore this thread. You aren't being productive anyway.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it kind sad Bcbrown just mimics Troxx when he's lost an argument. This is ego talking when you think other people are begging.



Remember OP? He wants to know the math. For OP, plesse read this:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=440

For posters like Bcbrown who don't care and simply copy what Troxx says, feel free to ignore this thread. You aren't being productive anyway.

is there any reason you wont goto a few kittens raids and parse on vindi, you can post it as the log and we can parse it if you want. what do you have against hitting raid targets?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is there any reason you wont goto a few kittens raids and parse on vindi, you can post it as the log and we can parse it if you want. what do you have against hitting raid targets?

I've provided plenty of data to support my theory thus far. The same cannot be said for the other posters. It is time for other people to step up if they want to prove something or challenge something.

Feel free to parse Corudoth and then give us logs for both Corudoth and Vindi. That would be great!

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trolls like Troxx spam the thread when people disagree with them. Same as all the other threads like this.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/m...osted&t=416125

funny how with threads like these it is always the same person with the most total posts?