Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[fortior]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

Wow, you're a toxic bugger aren't you?

Imagine getting so riled up about the idea of community sharing a spawn in an online video game.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

Fortior, let’s set the record straight. I asked people to look at the proposal and make their own decision, nothing more. If you see that as "cold calling," then you’re misunderstanding the situation. The term you’re looking for is "raising awareness", not everyone frequents the forums like you do.

As for proposing a camp rule change, that’s part of the process in any community-driven discussion. Trying to paint that as something negative just shows how far you’re reaching.

I’m here to discuss ideas and improve the game experience for everyone, not to get dragged into personal attacks. If you have something constructive to add, I’m all ears.

[Toxigen]

just give SWC to every char that dings 60

problem solved

[fortior]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, you're a toxic bugger aren't you?

Imagine getting so riled up about the idea of community sharing a spawn in an online video game.

There's nothing communal about a guy running to server staff to stop groups of people from voluntarily using their time and effort to hold down a camp. If you got the wool pulled over your eyes by his polite language then that's your problem.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing communal about a guy running to server staff to stop groups of people from voluntarily using their time and effort to hold down a camp. If you got the wool pulled over your eyes by his polite language then that's your problem.

Fortior, once again, you’re misrepresenting the situation. I didn’t just "run to server staff" to stop groups from holding down a camp. I petitioned the change, and I was instructed by the GMs to post on the forums and gather community feedback. After that, I asked the GMs what criteria were needed for the change to be considered.

There’s nothing underhanded about following the proper channels and seeking input from the community. If you’re going to criticize, at least get the facts straight.

[Otsego]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Otsego, it’s disappointing to see you twist the situation like this.

No twisting. Just the reality.

You not just asking people to come to the thread and give their input.

You're asking people to come to the thread to support you, giving reason that CSR has sent you into a losing battle to garner sympathy. You then ask directly for positive support for your side.

You say you don't want bias, but you only point out flaws in the no votes and you only ask people to come to vote yes.

Are you blind to your own biases?

[Otsego]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’ve been consistently selective in your arguments, focusing on whatever fits your narrative while ignoring the broader issues of fairness and access that have been at the core of this discussion from the start. If you want to talk about biases, let’s recognize the ones that allow a few groups to monopolize content at the expense of everyone else.

Fair. I am extremely selective in what I respond to, but only because I notice and point out flaws in arguments. You directly lie about my group's intentions or label it unhealthy when it's the exact opposite. I will point it out and help correct your misunderstanding or supply information you don't yet have.

Once again you've used this as an opportunity to address none of the issues that are counter to your proposal.

Be transparent and be honest, then I'll have nothing to counter, and you'll likely also have my support - especially since the URN system is the near perfect solution to a camp like this - which is why many of the teams have implemented variations of it themselves.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by Otsego [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No twisting. Just the reality.

You aren't asking people to come to the thread and give their input.

You're asking people to come to the thread to support you, giving reason that CSR has sent you into a losing battle to garner sympathy. You then ask directly for positive support for your side.

You say you don't want bias, but you only point out flaws in the no votes and you only ask people to come to vote yes.

Are you blind to your own biases?

Unfortunately wrong again, here are all my posts, which also follows the same form of advocacy and awareness as the message I sent you:

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[Otsego]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interestingly enough, Otsego - who conveniently voted "No" - created their account the same day they cast their vote. So, if we’re questioning voter activity, maybe we shouldn’t have such a narrow focus.

Yes, I made this account solely to post on the forums without exposing my login/name/age/whatever else.

Nothing wrong with that and I am interacting in this thread. Hi, I'm from the Castle Alliance. ^^