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Old 07-01-2024, 04:40 PM
Elizondo Elizondo is offline
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DSM argues for the sake of arguing

The topic is irrelevant


oh the answer to the OP's question is ENC / ENC / Cleric / (Mage or Druid)
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Old 07-01-2024, 04:43 PM
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Clerics have better healing efficiency on charm pets. Clerics have substantially better HP buffs. Clerics have faster blast healing for group members. Clerics have stuns to support charm breaks. Clerics open up tricky pulling maneuvers with lulls and DAs. Clerics can rez, including on dungeon crawls where you can't park a pocket cleric.

If you don't want to hear any of that, that's on you.
But does this actually speed up leveling? Being better at something doesn't always actually help speed up leveling.

You need to show examples where a Cleric's superior healing sped up the group more than what a Shaman is offering the group, for example.

You are just repeating the same points over and over, while never explaining any of it. I can explain my positions as to why I think Shaman is better

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

You can't do the same with clerics. You just repeat bullet points.
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Old 07-01-2024, 04:49 PM
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Maybe you can explain to us why you think clerics synergize well with enchanters, since you're not interested in my explanation.
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Old 07-01-2024, 04:54 PM
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Maybe you can explain to us why you think clerics synergize well with enchanters, since you're not interested in my explanation.
No, it's your turn to actually explain your position as to why you think Clerics are better in this four man group scenario. I did so with Shamans already:

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

Simply repeating bullet points is not an explaination. We already got those bullet points from other posters, who also did not expand upon them. Do you even have your own opinion on this topic?
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Old 07-01-2024, 04:58 PM
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You agree that enchanters and clerics synergize well, but you reject all my points about how they synergize well.

Unless you explain why you think they synergize well I don't know what else I can tell you.

Enchanter charm pets plus cleric complete healing is a really good combo.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:02 PM
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You agree that enchanters and clerics synergize well, but you reject all my points about how they synergize well.

Unless you explain why you think they synergize well I don't know what else I can tell you.

Enchanter charm pets plus cleric complete healing is a really good combo.
This is just a dodge.

I explained the Shaman/Enchanter synnergy here: https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

This supports my position for picking a Shaman.

You need to explain how the Cleric/Enchanter synnergy is more benefitial than the Shaman/Enchanter synnergy in this four man group scenario.

Thus far all you have done is repeat bullet points. If you think that is all that's needed to win, I can just compress my points into bullets and post them back. Then we would be at an impasse.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:09 PM
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Then we would be at an impasse.
We've been at an impasse for 489 pages over almost two years, that's not going to change.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:12 PM
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We've been at an impasse for 489 pages over almost two years, that's not going to change.
As I predicted, Bcbrown is unable to explain his position as to why Clerics would help this group more than Shamans. He is repeating bullet points, without being able to expand on any of them.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:22 PM
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The biggest thing a pair of enchanters need is survivability. They've got plenty of DPS with a pair of hasted dual-wielding charm pets. A cleric provides the best survivability - best hp buffs, best heals, stuns.
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Old 07-01-2024, 05:24 PM
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Fucken idiot.
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