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Old 08-17-2011, 05:19 PM
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folks, you've degenerated
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:24 PM
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folks, you've degenerated
and you've just loke'd your way outta my heart. goodbye friend. I thought you and i could, you know, have coherent conversations without backtracking and delusional thoughts and ideas but it seems they've got you as well. I can, and quite comfortably at that, say that all officers in TR are officially dickheads.

In fact, i think i may go an extra mile here... just answer these little questions for me:

How many naggies have you known that he doesn't banish like he's supposed to?

Also, has xzerion attended any of them?

Because when there's not a bug report about a super easy mob that's at the back of your list but the assumption is that he's a bitch to kill (that's assuming it's 52 on hatelist or gtfo) then that's quite an advantage, no? in fact, could you even say that supremely dickish behavior?

Am i accusing xzerion, even though he's a dev, of joining in on your dickish behavior? Maybe. does he put in a lot for the server? sure. does it make him immune for throwing him in the same bag as the rest of you? no.

Can you answer the questions, though?
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:28 PM
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Since when has Naggy's banish not worked? Because I've been showing up on a 44 cleric for that fight.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:31 PM
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Since when has Naggy's banish not worked? Because I've been showing up on a 44 cleric for that fight.
apparently a couple of your 60s were at the one where you leapfrogged taken, granted, apparently they had 60s as well but considering the fact that they filed the bug report I'm gonna go ahead and give them the benefit of the doubt. cyrano, it's not the first time either bro... i mean how many islands in posky were broken without a single word in the petition threads? you guys knew it, and sure, the GMs did, but when everyone else doesn't then don't you think that's a bit...you know... douchie?
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:33 PM
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:35 PM
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Any what do you mean by go classic? Because if we knew the exact spawn time of mobs down to the second do you think anyone besides TR or TMO would ever get any mob? Here's the real issue, content doesn't come out enough to appease the top guilds. We should have had VP months ago, we shouldn't have had tons of people in PoS gear prior to the release of Kunark. Because of that you see more players with far stronger stats than we were ever intended to have at this point in Kunark as opposed to a small group. And because of variance you see larger guilds so that we can compete 24/7.

Not sure what happened to you personally Skope but I know other guilds have gotten Nagafen since Kunark and even in the past month so whatever you're trying to insinuate strikes me as a petty scheme to paint us as cheaters. It's the same game many people have played when they lose mobs but since I don't know of any head to head occurrences with Divinity recently I really have no idea what your agenda is. Did you see level 60 TR members killing Nagafen? I don't think so and I bet that if you pm'd Rogean or Nilbog they'd confirm that he's working as intended. But like I said earlier in that wall of text, I don't think you care about any of that you just want something to bitch about and this happens to be it.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:37 PM
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apparently a couple of your 60s were at the one where you leapfrogged taken, granted, apparently they had 60s as well but considering the fact that they filed the bug report I'm gonna go ahead and give them the benefit of the doubt. cyrano, it's not the first time either bro... i mean how many islands in posky were broken without a single word in the petition threads? you guys knew it, and sure, the GMs did, but when everyone else doesn't then don't you think that's a bit...you know... douchie?
Is it at all possible those 60's were there to buff and not engage because the banish is working as intended?
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:39 PM
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petty scheme to paint us as cheaters.
Is this not the same forum tactic used by IB, DA, Trans, TR, Fusion, TMO in regard to any given situation where a definitive winner/loser is determined?

At some point, we're posting only for the sake of it. Cyrano, you've done just that - you've illustrated a nonsensical rambling then indeed took the time to type not one, but two entire paragraphs in regards to it.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:40 PM
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Any what do you mean by go classic? Because if we knew the exact spawn time of mobs down to the second do you think anyone besides TR or TMO would ever get any mob? Here's the real issue, content doesn't come out enough to appease the top guilds. We should have had VP months ago, we shouldn't have had tons of people in PoS gear prior to the release of Kunark. Because of that you see more players with far stronger stats than we were ever intended to have at this point in Kunark as opposed to a small group. And because of variance you see larger guilds so that we can compete 24/7.

Not sure what happened to you personally Skope but I know other guilds have gotten Nagafen since Kunark and even in the past month so whatever you're trying to insinuate strikes me as a petty scheme to paint us as cheaters. It's the same game many people have played when they lose mobs but since I don't know of any head to head occurrences with Divinity recently I really have no idea what your agenda is. Did you see level 60 TR members killing Nagafen? I don't think so and I bet that if you pm'd Rogean or Nilbog they'd confirm that he's working as intended. But like I said earlier in that wall of text, I don't think you care about any of that you just want something to bitch about and this happens to be it.
actually the screenshots they have (and the logs will as well) show both of your guilds with 60s. can you answer my question, though? sure would be nice.

As far as my agenda, i call people on bullshit and there's a LOT of TR bullshit floating around. i call uthgaard on his bullshit and tough talk and the fact that he doesn't back it up when it comes to raid rulings. What the hell makes you think xzerion is immune? if there's dickish behavior i don't care what tag you're wearing, you're being a dick.

as far as the server's direction, it was always classic and classic timeline. the timeline gets pushed back because they don't have the help and/or bad shit happens (fuck tornadoes), but the current variance is completely worthless. it was put in place to prevent poopsock and it has actually never ever done that. I know you guys, or some of you, were pushing a 7-day variance as well... should we all just hotlink SEQ on our guild's resources page? cause that's gonna happen.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:53 PM
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Cyrano, Karsten... no one is proposing TR hand out "their mobs" to the undeserving masses. Not a single person here is advocating that, as far as I can tell.

Personally, I'm calling Xzerion and Karsten out for claiming TR "takes the high road" when in fact there are countless examples of them not taking the high road, and then the icing on the cake is Karsten pretty much saying that (paraphrased) "well, you can't clearly define this high road you speak of, so... sorry if we don't take it." So, now we can be certain this is simply a matter of "TR is expected to take the high road if it allows us to leapfrog over the guild taking the low road full of trash mobs."

You and the members of TR essentially have two choices:

Be competitive and get the raid targets, but respect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch, thus taking the high road. This won't kill you... you get 90-95% of the raid mobs as it is due to your intense competitive nature.

Be competitive and get the raid targets, and disrespect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch by:

a) fucking with their pull
b) rushing in to be FTE right before they engage
c) rules-lawyering some technicality so the GMs give you the loot after they killed the mob
d) sniping a mob out from under them by leapfrogging or other "dick moves"
e) generally doing whatever underhanded shit it takes to deny them

To this date, you have consistently chosen the latter route and have hidden behind the pretense of "competition".

But this isn't competition.

Competition was the first of the two choices above that you consciously make about the type of guild you want to be. The latter of the two choices is more about making the entire competition so goddamn fucking miserable for the rest of the players, including ones caught in the crossfire between the two main competitors, that no one else wants to play, and you win by default.

Winning by default by making everyone else sick of the game because of the underhanded shit that you do... is that truly the kind of competition you seek? Because if it is, then that's some sorry-ass spirit of competition you've got going there.

And the worst is yet to come when epics get released. You think TMO monopolizing Droga was bad? Because the name of your game is "deny everyone else anything that they could possibly use to come close to competing against you", we all know you're going to perma-camp Ragefire for your clerics, your cleric alts, and cleric alts of your cleric alts. You know it and I know it. Just like you're going to monopolize ST keys when Velious comes out, equip all your melees and their alts with primals and then put down all 4 warders. Hell, the plans are probably already drawn out on your forums, with who needs to be where, and what 8-hour shift you're responsible for.

THAT is what the rest of us have to look forward to unless TMO, Divinity, Taken, BDA, and VD all combine to do what we need to do to make it not fun for TR anymore and make you call it quits before any of that ever happens. But even that won't happen because the rest of us aren't arrogant or douchey enough to do the underhanded things necessary to stoop down to their level to cockblock a guild until they get fed up and stop logging in. Most of the rest of us understand that respect begets respect.

At the end of the day, when this server has come and went, no one is going to give a shit about what armor or weapons anyone in TR or any other guild had, or what mobs they killed, or how many times they killed Trak... all they are going to remember is the interactions they had with you. If you want your legacy to be "Wow, TR was a bunch of douchebags who ruined the server." then so be it. I can't change that. Shaere can't change that. Skope can't change that.

And I guess it doesn't matter because of the anonymity of the Internet, so go on and do whatever your conscience allows you to do, I guess.
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