Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but no melee allowed, I'd do it with a monk tanking with aggro clickies + a cleric.

DSM, it's super obvious to everyone else participating in this conversation that you fizzled out after getting epic and torpor on your shaman, basically turning into every other soloing shaman player: someone who has 1 good tool, learns how to use it, and forgets everything else about the game.

Still haven't named a camp you think is better. Nice trolling. Nice Strawman.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see you still aren't willing to provide a camp name[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Should be easy for you!

I did? Hate minis? With the wizard TLing the crew to SG in between I suppose. Or any other farming spot, PoM works fine too.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did? Hate minis? With the wizard TLing the crew to SG in between I suppose. Or any other farming spot, PoM works fine too.

You do know that something like Magi is soloable by an Enchanter, right? You don't need a Cleric to be there.

PoM is soloable by a Shaman, and Shamans work fine for puppets.

SG is also soloable by an Enchanter, so again you don't need the Cleric there.

What else you got?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh sure. Enchanter/Enchanter/Necromancer/Cleric would be awesome. As I stated before, I am not claiming a Cleric is not a good pick in this group. We are simply debating the finer points of what a Cleric vs. Shaman bring.

Are there any camps that Enc/Enc/Necro/Cleric can't do, that Enc/Enc/Necro/Shaman can? Or Enc/Enc/X/Shaman?

[Toxigen]

we're about to divide by 0 here, folks

[fortior]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do know that something like Magi is soloable by an Enchanter, right? You don't need a Cleric to be there.

PoM is soloable by a Shaman, and Shamans work fine for puppets.

SG is also soloable by an Enchanter, so again you don't need the Cleric there.

What else you got?

Dude, it's a farm crew. The goal isn't to just skate by, it's to effectively farm things. Even the best farmer dies in hate, and even the best solo ench will agree that having a second ench makes the whole trip exponentially easier and faster. Which is what you want, because it's a competitive zone, and there's entire continents of other targets to farm.

I think you're out of your depth, you should just play more EQ, maybe dip out of your comfort zone (torporing yourself while dots tick on a slowed mob) a little.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are there any camps that Enc/Enc/Necro/Cleric can't do, that Enc/Enc/Necro/Shaman can? Or Enc/Enc/X/Shaman?

No. The Shaman adds nothing. Just redundant utility. If they were that good, enc would prefer them over clerics.

Better off stacking better dps for faster kills. Or as someone suggested a porter for high mobility for camps. With a mage, you could aoe mobs with cleric da pulls and enc stunning too. Just so many more options.

Ask yourself, do you want a mage for an epic pet, rods, coth, DS, or a shaman to go around clicking jbb and/or trying to pull 4+ mobs in your camp to root rot them with epic?

[Ripqozko]

To be fair all DSM has left is ww dragons , VQ is a dead guild. Not too surprising when the guild is full of DSM personalities.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are there any camps that Enc/Enc/Necro/Cleric can't do, that Enc/Enc/Necro/Shaman can? Or Enc/Enc/X/Shaman?

Chardok Royals perhaps, which I have mentioned multiple times already. That is one camp I haven't done enough of to fully understand what compositions you could theoretically bring. I've generally been in groups that bring a Cleric + Warrior for tanking, so that is outside of the scope of this thread's requirement. A Cleric has soloed the Queen with clickies if memory serves. If someone can solo something with clickies, a four man group could probably do it without a Cleric strictly speaking.

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, it's a farm crew. The goal isn't to just skate by, it's to effectively farm things. Even the best farmer dies in hate, and even the best solo ench will agree that having a second ench makes the whole trip exponentially easier and faster. Which is what you want, because it's a competitive zone, and there's entire continents of other targets to farm.

I think you're out of your depth, you should just play more EQ, maybe dip out of your comfort zone (torporing yourself while dots tick on a slowed mob) a little.

Again, the thing you are missing is that if something can be soloed by an Enchanter, you probably don't need a Cleric for CH. You can take a Shaman for superior utility. You have 2x Enchanters already covering Lull/Stun.

If your group is dying a lot and needs the reses, it isn't a very good farm crew. You could also just do Enchanter/Enchanter/Necromancer/Shaman.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Cleric has soloed the Queen with clickies if memory serves. If someone can solo something with clickies, a four man group could probably do it without a Cleric strictly speaking.

If a cleric can solo it, then I bet the best four-man caster group to take it on should include a cleric!