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Old 09-09-2022, 04:39 PM
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DSM let me give you a run down on what happened here once I decided to put in a modicum of effort here (pro tip don’t expose your personality to an experienced attorney it will be used to manipulate you in the argument).

I’ve always though three ench plus cleric is the best. However I know you so I knew I couldn’t jump right to that because you’ll just refuse and it’s like talking to a wall.

So what I did instead was get you embroiled in the debate of mage vs shaman. For the record I still think mage is higher dps than shaman but that wasn’t the main goal of bringing it up today. You’ve shown your personality well enough that it’s easy to manipulate you into making my own argument for me because I know you can’t bear to be wrong so all I had to do was make a slightly wrong argument about the best choice for the 4th char and you would jump all over it and make my argument for me, which is exactly what you did.

I got you embroiled in the mage vs shaman debate so much that you just COULDNT WAIT TO PROVE ME WRONG by jumping in and saying three enchanters and a cleric are the best choice not mage enchanter enchanter cleric. What’s the phrase about winning the battle but losing the war?

I just got you to put my own argument into your mouth and adopt it as your own and admit that the shaman isn’t the best fourth group member option.

This was way too easy lol
This is just nonsense lol.

Because so many people are talking, I have to have conversations with multiple people at the same time.

If you want to go back to the Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric example, I still say Shaman would be superior over Mage. The Mage allows you to maybe do Chardok Royals with CoTH. The Shaman allows you to do at least Ixiblat Fer + WW Dragons. So far the Shaman wins on camps, wins on utility, and you aren't losing a lot of DPS.

Please just read instead of making these long comments about nothing.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:41 PM
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He's so obsessed with shamans he's suggesting they be part of the best overall 4 man caster group (including 1-60) solely for ixiblat and ww dragons lol.

How can you reason with someone this detached from reality?
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:42 PM
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He's so obsessed with shamans he's suggesting they be part of the best overall 4 man caster group (including 1-60) solely for ixiblat and ww dragons lol.

How can you reason with someone this detached from reality?
I am not. You are simply obsessed with "winning" against me, so you throw out reason and logic. You just want to try and "gotcha" me, and you can't even do that.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:42 PM
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This is just nonsense lol.

Because so many people are talking, I have to have conversations with multiple people at the same time.

If you want to go back to the Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric example, I still say Shaman would be superior over Mage. The Mage allows you to maybe do Chardok Royals with CoTH. The Shaman allows you to do at least Ixiblat Fer + WW Dragons. So far the Shaman wins on camps, wins on utility, and you aren't losing a lot of DPS.

Please just read instead of making these long comments about nothing.
But again I don’t want to go back to that argument. Because that’s not the correct answer. The correct answer is enchanter enchanter enchanter cleric. I just used mage to manipulate you into making the argument about how a third enchanter would be best for me. Which you did.

You said best four person group is 3 enchanters and cleric, which exactly aligns with my true opinion and shows shaman is irrelevant
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I am not.
You quite literally are doing exactly that as we speak


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Okay so we've established shaman has no place in this hypothetical best 4 man caster group outside of a niche mob or two. You keep bringing up Ixiblat which is one of very few situations where I think shaman might be helpful.

There ya have it boys and girls. If you want the best 4 man caster group for Ixiblat and maybe 1-2 other things put a shaman in there. For 1-60 and 95% of everything else at 60 pick something else.

End of thread.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:43 PM
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But again I don’t want to go back to that argument. Because that’s not the correct answer. The correct answer is enchanter enchanter enchanter cleric. I just used mage to manipulate you into making the argument about how a third enchanter would be best for me. Which you did.

You said best four person group is 3 enchanters and cleric, which exactly aligns with my true opinion and shows shaman is irrelevant
You didn't manipulate anything, because I have already said all of this before. As you keep proving, you haven't been reading. You can literally check the post history lol.

You are also simply just obsessed with "winning" against me, so you are grasping at any straw you can.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:44 PM
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everyone but me is wrong
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:45 PM
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You didn't manipulate anything, because I have already said all of this before. As you keep proving, you haven't been reading. You can literally check the post history lol.

You are also simply just obsessed with "winning" against me, so you are grasping at any straw you can.
So if you’ve said all this before then that means you agree the best group is three enchanters and a cleric.

Do you see what I just did to you again there? I told you that I got you to make my own argument for me. Because you can’t stand that, you go “no I’ve made that argument before!” Thereby yet again stating that the 3 enchanter plus cleric group is the best.

This is very easy
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everyone but me is wrong
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"The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject." - Marcus Aurelius
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:46 PM
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So if you’ve said all this before then that means you agree the best group is three enchanters and a cleric.

Do you see what I just did to you again there? I told you that I got you to make my own argument for me. Because you can’t stand that, you go “no I’ve made that argument before!” Thereby yet again stating that the 3 enchanter plus cleric group is the best.

This is very easy
I agree. It is very easy to post nonsense. You are great at it.
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