Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Gloomlord]

I love how DSM keeps resorting to root rotting whenever mage DPS is undeniably better.

As if 2 enchanters would want some moron off at the sides root rotting, rather than a mage increasing the kill speed on one mob.

[Karanis]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

30 DPS

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20 DPS

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10 DPS

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[Karanis]

Also, no one is saying you couldn't theoretically meet or surpass mage dps by root-rotting non-high level Sebilis mobs (certainly not ilis frogs or wizards) off to the side.

We're saying most 4-man caster groups would rather have a largely irrelevant mage increasing single target dps as the enchanter pets melt 1 mob at a time, along with their other perks; than an almost entirely irrelevant shaman off-healing OR doing some dumbass root-rotting of adds off to the side in order to dps.

Just to reiterate, it's possible, it's just retarded.

[Gloomlord]

If the shaman plans on root rotting, why is he even in this hypothetical group to begin with?

Does DSM have such a narrow minded view in his pathetic quest to prove how good shamans are?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I am glad to see people are now admitting the fourth member's DPS is irrelevant.

Now that DPS is off the table, Mage's have nothing to offer. Shamans have superior charm break safety, and superior Malo capabilities.

Unless you need CoTH, there really is no reason for a Mage.

If you prefer a Mage over a Shaman, that is fine, nobody has ever said you can't have a preference.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am glad to see people are now admitting the fourth member's DPS is irrelevant.

We never said that DPS was irrelevant, you blithering lunatic!

Why do you keep lying?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We never said that DPS was irrelevant, you blithering lunatic!

Why do you keep lying?

I am not lying, and insults aren't helping your case.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with you more dps in a 2 charm group isn't a HUGE benefit.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Karanis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're saying most 4-man caster groups would rather have a largely irrelevant mage increasing single target dps.

I agree the Mage is largely irrelevant, but I disagree with the statement that people care about the single target DPS. The increase is quite small, as has been shown many times.

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As if 2 enchanters would want some moron off at the sides root rotting, rather than a mage increasing the kill speed on one mob.

If you don't want your group members increasing your groups DPS when killing trash, you don't care about DPS. Your preference on how DPS happens is irrelevant.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Karanis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, no one is saying you couldn't theoretically meet or surpass mage dps by root-rotting non-high level Sebilis mobs (certainly not ilis frogs or wizards) off to the side.

We're saying most 4-man caster groups would rather have a largely irrelevant mage increasing single target dps as the enchanter pets melt 1 mob at a time, along with their other perks; than an almost entirely irrelevant shaman off-healing OR doing some dumbass root-rotting of adds off to the side in order to dps.

Just to reiterate, it's possible, it's just retarded.

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the shaman plans on root rotting, why is he even in this hypothetical group to begin with?

Does DSM have such a narrow minded view in his pathetic quest to prove how good shamans are?

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We never said that DPS was irrelevant, you blithering lunatic!

Why do you keep lying?

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder / Asperger's Syndrome:

Tendency to think of issues as being black and white, rather than considering multiple perspectives in a flexible way

They have difficulty with semantics, such as understanding the meaning of words within different contexts. They may not understand that you “love” pizza in a different way than you “love” your mother.

They have an obsessive, consuming interest in one subject, to the exclusion of others. Examples include knowing every fact possible about The Beatles, the Federal Papers, Buddhism, train schedules, cycling, the stock market or Star Trek. Their obsessive interest may even be something that could land them in hot water, such as explosives, deviant sexual interests, computer hacking or firearms. A celebrity (or even YOU) could become their special interest and experience unwanted attention, harassment or stalking.

They can come across as “The Professor,” because they have a tendency to go into long, pedantic monologues about their obsessive interest, not recognizing the other person is bored or isn’t being given a chance to speak.

They come across as arrogant.

They cannot “read between the lines,” so they interpret everything literally. Their thinking is concrete.

They have difficulty in generalizing. This is known as the “forest through the trees” issue, or, more aptly for someone with AS, the trees through the leaves.

When they hear a difference of opinion or an attempt to explain a different perspective about a situation, they become defensive because they see it as conflict, or a criticism of who they are. They can become quite defensive when asked for clarification or a little sympathy. The defensiveness can turn into verbal abuse as the man with AS attempts to control the communication to suit his view of the world.

They are always right. ALWAYS. They will frequently say that you are being irrational or illogical.

You often find their behavior exasperating or even infuriating. You may find yourself saying, “You’re not listening to me!” or “You don’t understand. You think you do, but you don’t” or “That’s not what I was saying; you’ve come to the wrong conclusion,” but they will continue insisting that they do understand, perhaps telling you that you’re the one who doesn’t understand—even when it is your own experience or feelings that you were trying to convey. This is the main thing that frustrates partners of people with AS. First, it’s the lack of understanding and empathy; then it’s the lack of being able to understand that they don’t understand; and then it’s the insistence that they do understand and that you’re the one who doesn’t get it. You will feel that they don’t really “know” you or “see” you (they don’t; they aren’t able to), and you will be unable to resolve any conflict you have with them.

Although they may first appear to be highly intelligent, you will notice that their knowledge is restricted to a few narrow subjects and is quite lacking in a general sense. Among individuals with Asperger’s, those with high intelligence are a minority (just as they are in the general population). Their reputation of being highly intelligent is a myth.

Several applicable lines. Just choose your favorite one.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Several applicable lines. Just choose your favorite one.

Are you trying to get your autism insults back to 1 in 3 posts out of hundreds? I am not sure that is a record you want to try and beat.

[Karanis]

Originally Posted by Karanis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, no one is saying you couldn't theoretically meet or surpass mage dps by root-rotting non-high level Sebilis mobs (certainly not ilis frogs or wizards) off to the side.

We're saying most 4-man caster groups would rather have a largely irrelevant mage increasing single target dps as the enchanter pets melt 1 mob at a time, along with their other perks; than an almost entirely irrelevant shaman off-healing OR doing some dumbass root-rotting of adds off to the side in order to dps.

Just to reiterate, it's possible, it's just retarded.