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Old 07-14-2022, 01:41 PM
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...the scandals the Republican party needs to get through...
explain, using more than your 24-word vocabulary.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:42 PM
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It's funny how everyone who is unwilling to admit the fact that it's pretty likely a crime occurred focuses in on this one narrow thing of "did Trump try to grab a steering wheel"...and do you know why people focus in on that? Because it's the only real fact that's disputable. Everything else that has come out makes it clear that there were potentially criminal actions that occurred.

People are going to go down for this when the Committee refers it to the DOJ. Which IMO is a good thing. Let's get these crazy nut jobs out of everything and work on rebuilding the Republican party into something respectable that makes me proud to be a Republican.
Hey I totally agree any actual criminal actions that occurred should be punished accordingly. But "it's clear that maybe, potentially criminal actions might have occurred" isn't exactly a bombshell. They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial? Like, get back to me when they have hard evidence. "Day 563 of the jan 6 committee: BOMBSHELL: Crime maybe occured we think!" is getting old.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:46 PM
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You pointed out one statement that you thought was hearsay. I explained how in a trial that statement would be admissible. So we've already done that exercise, just because you don't like the answer or you don't have the legal understanding to process the information I gave you doesn't mean it's wrong lol.

Sorry, it's not hearsay lol. Keep panicking though.

Who cares about the midterms when it comes to this? I couldn't care less if the Committee has zero effect on the midterms. It's about accountability for people who tried to disrupt the democratic process for their own personal benefit. The hearings will be done and the referral to DOJ completed before the midterms...could it affect the midterms who knows but I don't care if it has zero effect on them at all, I'm just happy people are going to go down for the crimes they committed.

And I'm a Republican so this isn't an issue of political bias...the sanctity of our system is more important than anything - and everyone should feel that way, but you're so obsessed with "owning the Libs" that you'd sacrifice the good of our country just to be able to post "lol sucks Dems" on a message board. Good job.
You gave a number of ways in which statements might be allowed as an exception. You pontificated how maybe somehow possibly the statement might be accepted.

I asked you to pick a number from the list given in the law. You didn't.

Not panicking. Largely unconcerned with this nothing-burger. If they indict the Mayor of Portland who allowed for an actual insurrection, I would take them seriously.

We have limited resources in this short life. I can't be bothered by boys crying wolf and liars. If a group of people constantly lie for personal political gain while simultaneously promoting ideas and policies that are destructive... yes, I won't be spending time listening to them or taking them seriously.

Oh, and if anyone committed an actual crime, D or R, hang 'em high.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:07 PM
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...They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial?
A. He was impeached. Not that they tried. He was impeached.

B. You don't need a crime to impeach

C. The committee is providing their finding to DoJ and DoJ will determine if a crime has been committed.

Stop parroting Trumptard conspiracy talking points that are wrong.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:10 PM
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Tumptards like why won't you let it become a carnival of talking over each other. You know with screaming and fake parroted conspiracies.

Only jokes are those Trump supporters that still don't understand the scandals the Republican party needs to get through... Yet Again... Nixon... Bush.... Trump
Well it's also a sort of asinine complaint because the opportunity was there to get whatever Trump allies they wanted on the Committee...a full bipartisan Committee was originally proposed and was rejected and Trump scoffed at it and said it would be a terrible idea for his allies to join the Committee.

And now he and his moronic supporters are all complaining about how there is no one on the Committee to defend him or ask the questions he wants asked. It's like, then you should have taken the opportunity when you had it you moron.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:14 PM
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A. He was impeached. Not that they tried. He was impeached.

B. You don't need a crime to impeach

C. The committee is providing their finding to DoJ and DoJ will determine if a crime has been committed.

Stop parroting Trumptard conspiracy talking points that are wrong.
Ok hall monitor, I'm sorry for misusing the term impeach. Yes he was impeached, in an effort to remove him from office, which failed. As if you didn't know that's exactly what I meant.

Also lol "findings", yes their findings which consist in part of some woman just blatantly lying about something that never happened, according to the very people she claimed it happened to. The integrity of our sacred democracy is very important, dontcha know, and these dems are standing up for all that is true and good!!
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:16 PM
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Hey I totally agree any actual criminal actions that occurred should be punished accordingly. But "it's clear that maybe, potentially criminal actions might have occurred" isn't exactly a bombshell. They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial? Like, get back to me when they have hard evidence. "Day 563 of the jan 6 committee: BOMBSHELL: Crime maybe occured we think!" is getting old.
I say "potentially" because I'm a lawyer so that's just my instinct to write lol. I think people are definitely going down for this, the evidence is really clear.

And no the impeachment didn't fail for that reason lol. The primary reason it failed was because a bunch of moronic Republicans just took the partisan line and refused to convict no matter what. It was clear enough at that time. However, if you want to get technical about it, like 90% of the evidence that has come out through the Committee process was not known at the time of the impeachment trial...ergo, the impeachment proceedings aren't really relevant overall.

At any rate, stop letting yourself take politics so personally. I'm a Republican and I think it's okay to admit when a candidate was awful and did something messed up. That doesn't mean the "libs win" or some bs like that. Allowing something like Jan 6th to happen without any sort of repercussions would be terrible for the future of our country and our system. Put your personal desire to "own the Libs" and your stubbornness aside for a few seconds and let's do the right thing here and then we can all put it behind us and move forward into a new (hopefully better) era of American politics.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:17 PM
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Ok hall monitor, I'm sorry for misusing the term impeach. Yes he was impeached, in an effort to remove him from office, which failed. As if you didn't know that's exactly what I meant.

Also lol "findings", yes their findings which consist in part of some woman just blatantly lying about something that never happened, according to the very people she claimed it happened to. The integrity of our sacred democracy is very important, dontcha know, and these dems are standing up for all that is true and good!!
See now you're showing how you're not educated on these issues as well as the legal intricacies around them. I assume you're referring to the statement about Trump trying to grab a steering wheel. She never "claimed that happened"; she was asked a question and said "person A told me X happened".
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:21 PM
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Ok hall monitor, I'm sorry for misusing the term impeach. Yes he was impeached, in an effort to remove him from office, which failed. As if you didn't know that's exactly what I meant.

Also lol "findings", yes their findings which consist in part of some woman just blatantly lying about something that never happened, according to the very people she claimed it happened to. The integrity of our sacred democracy is very important, dontcha know, and these dems are standing up for all that is true and good!!
You guys wouldn't even admit that he lost the election as an incumbent (no small feat itself), but it's ridiculous to assume that any hearing no matter how thorough would ever get through to the biggest paste eating Trumptards like yourself.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:46 PM
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this thing was designed to do 1 thing, make people fight each other.

the goverment is trying to turn this place into the thunderdome so they can ratchet up their power, consolidate their wealth.
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