Sleeper being awoken tonight (April 13th)

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Goldknyght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the manastone was working as intended. the Guise of the deceiver was working as intended. but unfair advantages were discovered and it was nerfed. So this interaction only happening once should be nerfed for a p99 server that stops in velious. How is this not understandable?

Because when those things were nerfed it was 1999. The ultimate goal of this server even though there are some things still to be improved, is to be as classic as possible. This includes timelines in which items were nerfed back in the day.

What you’re talking about is ret-conning the original developers decisions which wouldn’t be in spirit of the original purpose of the server.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is supposedly trying to re-create the Everquest timeline

Wait, what?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the Staff have denied players pixels by removing legacy items, which they have no obligation to do so.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, what?

Lol do you not understand two things can be true at once? P99's mission statement is to recreate classic Everquest circa 1999-2001 or so. But they are not getting paid to do it, and they do not have a gun to their head. They have no obligation to actually go through with it. How is this complicated?

[Goldknyght]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a separate argument from this thread. It would certainly be consistent to simply remove all legacy items, but that isn't what we are talking about here hehe. P99 is supposedly trying to re-create the Everquest timeline, even though they don't do it perfectly. This is why they put Manastone in for a month and then remove it, to attempt to simulate the limited time drop of that legacy item. But that is still a customized decision that is unique to P99, and not the same as the on-the-fly nerf that occurred initially in 1999.



Not moving the goal post, I am simply trying help you out by explaining different aspects of my argument. It is a waste of time for you, since you are a troll. But hopefully it is beneficial for the other readers.

Im not arguing to remove legacy items, but the farming of them is toxic. Why there was a /list set up for them. So even the p99 devs know its a problem. So by using that same logic, waking the sleeper without the server wanting that event to happen is toxic. because This is a by product of the server stopping in velious. On TLPs people complain, but they can just wait till luclin drops then Planar armor from plane of time to correct what happens after a server wakes the sleeper. There is no new expansion to correct or make the items irrelevant anymore.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goldknyght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not arguing to remove legacy items, but the farming of them is toxic. Why there was a /list set up for them. So even the p99 devs know its a problem. So by using that same logic, waking the sleeper without the server wanting that event to happen is toxic. because This is a by product of the server stopping in velious. On TLPs people complain, but they can just wait till luclin drops then Planar armor from plane of time to correct what happens after a server wakes the sleeper. There is no new expansion to correct or make the items irrelevant anymore.

I guess I am just confused then. You don't want anything to change, you just want to call people dicks and toxic? Of course people understand the problem with limited time content is it is... limited. That doesn't make it bad lol. That is one of the things people like about Everquest, which is different from other MMOs where you are just spoon fed all the best gear.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol do you not understand two things can be true at once? P99's mission statement is to recreate classic Everquest circa 1999-2001 or so. But they are not getting paid to do it, and they do not have a gun to their head. They have no obligation to actually go through with it. How is this complicated?

Who said anything about getting paid?

It's advertised as a "Classic Everquest Server". A museum that captures the spirit and history of the game as it was during the Classic Era. A labor of love.

I'm amazed at how utterly devoid of integrity you are to try and minimize the passion, time, dedication and energy involved in making this server a reality for everyone to enjoy. Anyone can just throw up an EQ emu server and hope to attract players. You don't see Daybreak giving their stamp of approval on any other server but this one. And for good reason.

To just toss that aside so you can feel like you 'won' an argument is pathetic

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who said anything about getting paid?

It's advertised as a "Classic Everquest Server". A museum that captures the spirit and history of the game as it was during the Classic Era. A labor of love.

I'm amazed at how utterly devoid of integrity you are to try and minimize the passion, time, dedication and energy involved in making this server a reality for everyone to enjoy. Anyone can just throw up an EQ emu server and hope to attract players. You don't see Daybreak giving their stamp of approval on any other server but this one. And for good reason.

To just toss that aside so you can feel like you 'won' an argument is pathetic

I didn't toss that aside at all. Nice attempt at a straw man pivot to try and avoid the conversation. I think the P99 developers are doing an amazing job.

The people who are minimizing the P99 staff's efforts are people who think a mechanic they created (and wanted to be played) is "toxic" or "loot denying" lol. Seal Team respected the Dev's efforts by actually triggering the script, instead of letting it rot because people didn't put in the effort to get to the Warders first.

By blaming Seal Team, you are also blaming the Dev's. The only asshole here blaming the Dev's and minimizing their effort is you. That is precisely why I am arguing against blaming Seal Team. You are also slapping the Dev's in the face by doing that. Shame.

[Worry]

the community really sucks here lol... what a shame.

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by Worry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the community really sucks here lol... what a shame.

Idk if I agree with this. Seal Team has given the green server what they needed, which is content and more importantly an enemy.

Look at these forums for example, kinda boring kinda dull. Wake a sleeper and now we got conversations and threads in RNF with 6,000 views. Green UN with multiple people talking, memes flying…

Seal Team gives the community what they need and when they need it, sadly too many people don’t realize it but it’s healthy.

[Gustoo]

The devs didn't create the sleeper mechanic. Brad did.

This is a live everquest classic emulator, so you can bet your ass the sleeper is going to work just like he did on live.