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#122
08-03-2021, 11:56 AM
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#123
08-03-2021, 12:01 PM
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yall remember that sherif who (ex sherif) who busted a cap in that guy for throwing popcorn on him (the guy was rude af tho)
(he was from florida) did he get leathal or go to an old home? with shuffle boards? that theatre in weslay chapels | ||
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#124
08-04-2021, 01:28 AM
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But you are discounting people's own autonomy and ability to care for one's mental health just like we care for medical The reality is that there is a process, a buildup, leading to most suicide attempts. I work in behavioral health these past 14 years so I know quite a bit about them. First, there is a crisis, which is just defined as a level of life stress exceeding one's ability to cope. This causes what we call mental decompensation, which is when someone's mental state continues to worsen. Negative thought patterns develop, then someone's physical functioning is affected, such as their eating and sleep patterns, their energy level, their ability to care for hygiene, and they typically begin to isolate The safety element typically begins with what we refer to as a deathwish, which is the thought that "I wish I would fall asleep and not wake up", or "I wish something would happen to take me out" but the person doesn't yet want to kill themselves. Then if they continue to decompensate, the thoughts shifts into thinking about how they could kill themselves. From there, the planning stages begin, and the end of life preparation begins, such as writing a suicide note, giving away one's possessions, some people start donating all their money, etc There is no guarantee that this is the same process for everyone, some suicide attempts are more spontaneous, typically those are often influenced by drugs or alcohol But for the majority of attempts, it is indeed a process, and along the way, the person has two things going for them: 1.) A basic human survival instinct. For example, the human jaw has enough strength to bite off your own finger right now. But you won't do it, because you have a survival instinct telling you not to. and 2.) What we call "motivations for living", which is most often the effect the suicide would have on family members, one's own personal goals, or their religion Anywhere along this process, a person who recognizes they are decompensating mentally has the autonomy to be proactive and give up access to their firearm. This happens ALL the time in my job. People either do it themselves most often, or else they get professional help who strongly recommends they do it. EVEN IF, the person has zero supports in life, there's no one they can give it to, they can still contact police and request police take the firearm from them and give them a ticket, which they can later use to request it back There are probably more people who recognize they are becoming suicidal, but are early on in this process I outlined, who give up their firearm temporarily, than ones that complete suicide with it. The reason it doesn't seem that way is because you aren't going to hear about the ones who give up their firearm and seek professional help, because that isn't news-worthy. Only the deaths are news-worthy So TLDR: yes firearms are a risk. But most people don't just flip into a "I'm going to attempt suicide right now" like you or I would flip a lightswitch. It's a process, and along the way, people can and do become proactive and give up their firearms to their supports | |||
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#125
08-05-2021, 12:41 AM
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And it isn't just violence in the home it could be at the grocery store, the club, church or work. Mass shootings are way too prevalent: Examples - Location in US - Date - Fatalities Las Vegas Strip massacre - 10/1/2017 - 58 Orlando nightclub massacre - 6/12/2016 - 49 Virginia Tech massacre - 4/16/2007 - 32 Sandy Hook Elementary massacre - 12/14/2012 - 27 Texas First Baptist Church massacre - 11/5/2017 - 26 Luby's massacre - 10/16/1991 - 24 El Paso Walmart mass shooting - 8/3/2019 - 22 San Ysidro McDonald's massacre - 7/18/1984 - 22 Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting - 2/14/2018 - 17 United States Postal Service shooting - 8/20/1986 - 15 San Bernardino mass shooting - 12/2/2015 - 14 Binghamton shootings - 4/3/2009 - 14 Fort Hood massacre - 11/5/2009 - 13 Columbine High School massacre - 4/20/1999 - 13 Virginia Beach municipal building shooting - 5/31/2019 - 12 Thousand Oaks nightclub shooting - 11/7/2018 - 12 Washington Navy Yard shooting - 9/16/2013 - 12 Aurora theater shooting - 7/20/2012 - 12 Tree of Life synagogue shooting - 10/27/2018 - 11 Boulder supermarket shooting - 3/22/2021 - 10 Santa Fe High School shooting - 5/18/2018 - 10 Red Lake massacre - 3/21/2005 - 10 GMAC massacre - 6/18/1990 - 10 San Jose VTA shooting - 5/26/2021 - 9 Dayton entertainment district shooting - 8/4/2019 - 9 Umpqua Community College shooting - 10/1/2015 - 9 Charleston Church Shooting - 6/17/2015 - 9 Hartford Beer Distributor shooting - 8/3/2010 - 9 Westroads Mall shooting - 12/5/2007 - 9 Atlanta day trading spree killings - 7/29/1999 - 9 101 California Street shootings - 7/1/1993 - 9 Standard Gravure shooting - 9/14/1989 - 9 FedEx warehouse shooting - 4/15/2021 - 8 Atlanta massage parlor shootings - 3/16/2021 - 8 Seal Beach shooting - 10/12/2011 - 8 Carthage nursing home shooting - 3/29/2009 - 8 Goleta postal shootings - 1/30/2006 - 8 Wedgwood Baptist Church shooting - 9/15/1999 - 8 The United States has had the most mass shootings of any country. In one 2017 study published in Time magazine by criminologist Adam Lankford, it was estimated that 31% of public mass shootings occur in the US, although it has only 5% of the world's population. The study concludes that “The United States and other nations with high firearm ownership rates may be particularly susceptible to future public mass shootings, even if they are relatively peaceful or mentally healthy according to other national indicators.” And tho Adam Lankford's analyst was scrutinized he later revised his statement above with more research clarifying that although the United States is not significantly more likely than most other countries to have mass shootings that are committed by more than one person, such as the university massacre in Kenya, the United States from 1998-2012 did in fact have more than six times its global share of public mass shooters who attacked alone. Using the data from Lott and Moody's 2019 study of mass shootings, Lankford explains that "41 of all 138 public mass shootings by single perpetrators worldwide were committed in the United States. That represents 29.7%. Because America had in those years approximately 4.5% of the world's population (according to Lott and Moody's calculations), this indicates that based on their own data, the United States had more than six times its global share of public mass shooters who attacked alone (29.7/4.5 = 6.6). Mass shootings have also been observed to be followed by an increase in the purchase of weapons, but does not seem to create an increased feeling of needing guns in either gun owners or non-owners. It is crazy we can't sue gun companies. But it looks like that if finally changing. And who would of thought of all places, Mexico is suing the US gun companies. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexico-...rt-11628108966 | |||
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#126
08-05-2021, 12:58 AM
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Propaganda is a helluva drug | |||
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#127
08-05-2021, 01:28 AM
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Where was the quarantine and mandatory compliance against something actually dangerous to everyone like AIDS? Why couldn't we isolate that one and "beat it together"? It doesn't help that the pushing of it is coming from the most nefarious and biggest caught liars in recent history. Don't get the stupid shot unless you're seriously immuno compromised, super fat, old or have some other serious health issue requiring the risk of "the jab". | |||
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#128
08-05-2021, 01:41 AM
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Do you understand the humongous statistical difference between the number of people killed in single-person murders versus the number of people killed in mass shootings? Do you know how different those two numbers are? Mass shootings look horrible. And the USA has a lot. That doesn't make them even fucking CLOSE to as much of a risk as suicide or single-person murders. It's not even in the ballpark, it's not even the same fucking sport | |||
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#129
08-05-2021, 01:48 AM
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#130
08-05-2021, 06:37 AM
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need a huge wall to border washington DC from the United States of America
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