TMA kills trak w/ under 50 after TR wipes with 30

[karsten]

raids don't get led by enlightened democracy, my good man. I've been in raids with every single major guild on this server since it's inception, with the exception of DA/Ascen. I can say, from experience, that there is a definitive difference in situational awareness between the average TR member and the average member of a different raiding guild. This speaks to loke's comment, which I heartily endorse.

So, again, the peanut gallery keeps saying it doesn't take skill to play this game, and those *****s are still talking with no dragon loot.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as for the assumption that TR doesn't zerg: they do. Up until last week they were hitting bosses with 40-50+, but now that there's a force larger than theirs it's a zerg, whereas before their force was considerably larger than anybody else's. Had they had a larger force last 2 trak spawns they'd have gotten those too, but they're well aware of that.

The rules favor big guilds and zerg forces, and currently only b/c it resolves the issue of GM intervention... which is fucking extremely odd considering ________ __ _______, but nevermind that. Basically it's ease of the GMs > a fair and classic raiding experience, so collect warm bodies = prosper. IB has done this twice, once at the beginning of the server where they recruited anybody higher level and then during poopsock era, and after DA fell apart they maintained that thought-process thru kunark. For a guild who's attempted to merge a few times to keep that streak going to call anybody else on this server out is be-fucking-yond me.

obv~ DA isn't any better, and this TMO/Asc merger is just another notch in the headboard of raping p99, but at least it mixes things up a bit.

Uthgaard is _______?

who is it?

[JenJen]

yendorlootmonkey

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say nothing about that poopsocking bullshit. When that hit the recruitment restrictions had to be loosened. That wasn't our tactic, but merely us facing the reality of what eq is and p99 became at the hands of the dark master (durison).

IB was only for the elite. That doesn't mean high skilled people couldn't have not applied and been elsewhere.

spiroc lord and that other crap... all after the golden age I speak of.

i know dude, but div has done much the same as you guys -- harder encounters without broken mechanics and with fewer people. We were never ones to brag about it, though.

i dunno whether it was because of the way the server took a turn and you guys wanted to adapt or or because of shitty leadership, but either way that elitist attitude persisted when it shouldn't have. Instead of "yea, because we have to" it was still "because we're better." i don't think it was ever the case

[Ektar]

well in my mind (and in my impassioned speech to the guild upon the decision to begin poopsocking) the turn was because we had to.

idk how it is now, and I haven't really cared since the poopsocking began all those moons ago. My only "care" was not backing down and letting DA win with that move that ruined any need of skill for the (probably) life of the server.

and it ended up driving me insane. HAHaaa! durison used to think thurme was a bot because I would track all night long and not say a word lol. 40 hour tracking sessions. dealing with low morale. handling.. well other things that's not worth getting into (abortions).

a year away and coming back to see the mutation of IB still kicking makes me happy though.

[Slathar]

thank goodness that all these fine educated people are spending their time usefully and productively

[Ektar]

well I mean now I'm a role model for america's youth. you're just a forum troll! hohoho

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well in my mind (and in my impassioned speech to the guild upon the decision to begin poopsocking) the turn was because we had to.

idk how it is now, and I haven't really cared since the poopsocking began all those moons ago. My only "care" was not backing down and letting DA win with that move that ruined any need of skill for the (probably) life of the server.

and it ended up driving me insane. HAHaaa! durison used to think thurme was a bot because I would track all night long and not say a word lol. 40 hour tracking sessions. dealing with low morale. handling.. well other things that's not worth getting into (abortions).

a year away and coming back to see the mutation of IB still kicking makes me happy though.

i did much the same, dude. i think for 2 months where we were knocking down mobs left and right i must've tracked more than anybody on the server combined. it took a shitty turn indeed... but the IB mentality was never to be #2, but #1 and do anything to stay there. I don't think it could have panned out any differently than it did. The poopsocking persisted because both guilds were content and confident that nobody else would try, and when they did try the rules were changed.

obv~ i can say quuuiiite a bit about DA as well, as many people could, but i'm just pointing out some blatant hypocrisy that i've noticed. that's all

[getsome]

harder encounters without broken mechanics, and with few people.

i assume your talking about sky.

raiding a target with others guilds on your ass and doing sky are two different animals imo.

I for one , enjoy the challenge of taking out a target with smaller numbers. Duoing FGs, Soloing Efreeti, all of lguk, Duoing Prot and jumpy etc.

But when you got 40 or 50 people show up on a server reset. Are we supposed to say, "u 20 folks sit out this fight,we gonna try with 30" that said, doing gore with 28 was more enjoyable than 45.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

harder encounters without broken mechanics, and with few people.

i assume your talking about sky.

raiding a target with others guilds on your ass and doing sky are two different animals imo.

I for one , enjoy the challenge of taking out a target with smaller numbers. Duoing FGs, Soloing Efreeti, all of lguk, Duoing Prot and jumpy etc.

But when you got 40 or 50 people show up on a server reset. Are we supposed to say, "u 20 folks sit out this fight,we gonna try with 30" that said, doing gore with 28 was more enjoyable than 45.

i seem to recall your FG Duos, in fact i recall seeing a few screenshots where you were exploiting the pathing but we were kind enough not to submit them and petition you. After you saw us you stopped exploiting that.

And i'm not pegging you as a zerg force, i think now you have to be and you're well aware of that. what i am saying is calling another guild that attempts much the same loses its credibility somewhere down the line.