The Joe Biden Drops Out thread

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It raises a question; why are legitimate subscribers paying to watch advertisements?

I'm not sure where the mindset comes from that you shouldn't receive any advertisements if you pay for access to a service. Like you buy a ticket to a game, you're not outraged because there's a Coca-Cola banner staring at you from above the stands. When you go to a doctor's office the have ads for skin creams on the walls in the waiting room, but yet you're essentially paying $45 to sit there and you don't even care. But somehow media is different. And yet you're just paying for access to service just like anywhere. It must be a holdover from when cable first started out, like look I have The Home Box Office and there's no ads! Oh wow!

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof. Where I work we have like 150 sites and get our revenue from advertising, from selling data, from selling merch, and from subscriber fees. If any of the former were take away, the latter would double or triple.

By the way, speaking of adblockers, we know who and how many and when and we can totally get around those users. We have anti ad-block tech that works 100%. We can serve you ads around your adblocker if we chose to. Or we can block your access. We don't choose to though. We monetize the adblock people by collecting data on them and selling that information to people who are interested in how many people use adblockers and what kind and whatever other PI we can gather. When you have a 150 websites and millions and millions of pageviews a month that information becomes valuable because of the scale. We also convert adblock people to paying customers by serving them special pages that basically say hey if you turn off your adblocker you can access this and that content, and also if you pay $5 you can get that content and also no ads, which works with enough of a percentage of people that it makes financial sense for us to do so. When someone comes to our sites with an adblocker, we lose money on the ads but we make it up somewhat by selling that visitor info to someone.

Don't even get me started on us being able to pay the adblocker people to have them designate our ads as safe or allowable or whatever. The adblocker companies figured out real quick that they can monetize their users just like any other cattle. When you install some adblocker app, you're just providing someone with a way to gather more info on you. I mean yeah, you're also getting less ads so that's worth it for most people.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof.

Here's the beef.

[PieOats]

Everything should be free except manuel labor.

Change my mind.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure where the mindset comes from that you shouldn't receive any advertisements if you pay for access to a service. Like you buy a ticket to a game, you're not outraged because there's a Coca-Cola banner staring at you from above the stands. When you go to a doctor's office the have ads for skin creams on the walls in the waiting room, but yet you're essentially paying $45 to sit there and you don't even care. But somehow media is different. And yet you're just paying for access to service just like anywhere. It must be a holdover from when cable first started out, like look I have The Home Box Office and there's no ads! Oh wow!

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof. Where I work we have like 150 sites and get our revenue from advertising, from selling data, from selling merch, and from subscriber fees. If any of the former were take away, the latter would double or triple.

By the way, speaking of adblockers, we know who and how many and when and we can totally get around those users. We have anti ad-block tech that works 100%. We can serve you ads around your adblocker if we chose to. Or we can block your access. We don't choose to though. We monetize the adblock people by collecting data on them and selling that information to people who are interested in how many people use adblockers and what kind and whatever other PI we can gather. When you have a 150 websites and millions and millions of pageviews a month that information becomes valuable because of the scale. We also convert adblock people to paying customers by serving them special pages that basically say hey if you turn off your adblocker you can access this and that content, and also if you pay $5 you can get that content and also no ads, which works with enough of a percentage of people that it makes financial sense for us to do so. When someone comes to our sites with an adblocker, we lose money on the ads but we make it up somewhat by selling that visitor info to someone.

Don't even get me started on us being able to pay the adblocker people to have them designate our ads as safe or allowable or whatever. The adblocker companies figured out real quick that they can monetize their users just like any other cattle. When you install some adblocker app, you're just providing someone with a way to gather more info on you. I mean yeah, you're also getting less ads so that's worth it for most people.

indeed. empire cannot survive except by subjugating more and more and more, until there is nothing left to subjugate. every moment, every atom, every calorie subjugated for the reproduction of empire. you will see empire. you will perceive empire. and you will act as empire commands. you have no right to be free of advertising anywhere, nor to be free from anything else, to do anything except what is useful to the reproduction of empire. not even the tiniest of free spaces, not one unconsumed moment can be permitted.

[BlackBellamy]

We serve warm empire every day because that's what the people want. You think we're forcing it down their throats? They lick the plate clean and ask for more. I know you think you know better and it's just a matter of educating the plebes but it's not. It's a matter of shooting them over and over until the ones that are left obey you out of fear. And as soon as you turn your back they'll stick a fork in it and bang on their plates cause they're hungry for more empire.

[Woke Locc]

Empire is when you offer loans to developing economies so they can trade with you

[zodium]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We serve warm empire every day because that's what the people want. You think we're forcing it down their throats? They lick the plate clean and ask for more. I know you think you know better and it's just a matter of educating the plebes but it's not. It's a matter of shooting them over and over until the ones that are left obey you out of fear. And as soon as you turn your back they'll stick a fork in it and bang on their plates cause they're hungry for more empire.

the assyrians thought much the same as you.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Ooh your rant just reminded me of the worst thing. TV channels that cut down scenes out of shows so they get more time to show advertisements. I remember once watching Scrubs and thinking ‘Hey, thats a callback gag except the part they are calling back to didn’t actually happen...’

I think that was the point when I was done with television.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the assyrians thought much the same as you.

the assyrians started thinking (as a people) around 2600BC but it took about 300 years to get that proper akkadian empire thinking and that empire thinking lasted until maybe 600BC when they finally ceased to have independent political thoughts, although as a people they continued to think for many centuries after.

i guess im on the right track. if i want to provide 17 centuries of stability for my children and their descendants i guess thinking like an assyrian can be the way to go.

marxism gave it a go, i think soviet russia lasted 74 years
i know china is still at it, but they still need 3 more years to pull even
not sure they can make it
maybe there's some breaking point after three generations of bullshit

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the assyrians started thinking (as a people) around 2600BC but it took about 300 years to get that proper akkadian empire thinking and that empire thinking lasted until maybe 600BC when they finally ceased to have independent political thoughts, although as a people they continued to think for many centuries after.

i guess im on the right track. if i want to provide 17 centuries of stability for my children and their descendants i guess thinking like an assyrian can be the way to go.

marxism gave it a go, i think soviet russia lasted 74 years
i know china is still at it, but they still need 3 more years to pull even
not sure they can make it
maybe there's some breaking point after three generations of bullshit

capped now you can't delete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] very dumb!

Akkadians lived communally and tribally; much more comparable to militant communism than the philosophy of limp-dicked, anti-family consumptive compulsion which has turnt us into a short-lived, miserable case study in empire even despite having the easiest scenario of domination in world history. Don't look to Zodium for too many answers; they're trying in futility to reconcile pacifism with reality. They're much smarter than you are tho!

Rome spent more on social programs than we do!