why do Rangers get a bad rep?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

root is the option in dungeons when you cant use harmony. So if you are lvl 50, say in KC, and pulling two yellow, root will delay one for a minute..

Or, because KC is an outdoors dungeon, you could just use harmony... ESPECIALLY if the mobs are yellow so your root stands a good chance of getting resisted............. wtf???

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really going to argue with a brick wall here, but your supposition was that Taunt doesn't belong on a ranger's hotkey bar, and I just gave you two quick examples (of which the second you didn't even address, because we both know root breaking mez is going to get your enchanter killed and Taunt is a far better option in that case for blue con mobs at least) where it is a tool a ranger needs to keep in their toolbox.

You don't let it just fester, most cases the mob is engaged before it breaks. It's never been a problem. Have done it 1000 times. Best to keep dps on what's current, break through that and then get to anything straying on your casters line, that you were watching. Dump a snare on it if you must (though I think bugged here for root/snare stacks), the casters can deal with it if it breaks free. Usually not the case though, although if in a little bitty space like HHK, can get rough lol ode to the olden days of watching my wizzy friend run for his life, though always survived when I was there. No brick walls, just long time experience. Ranger is the only melee I play, so I know what it's like on both sides of the camp from exp.

[Aadill]

Yeahhhh I'm going to say that the majority of "rangers that get a bad rep" are probably the ones that just want to be like Aragorn, just like what happened 10 years ago.

Rangers that can't play the class don't offer anything to a group. Rangers that can play their class can offer a healthy list of benefits to a group. What people have a problem with is that most rangers don't or can't make up for their 40% xp penalty, plain and simple.

Pull your weight and you get in groups.

[Aadill]

Also Legolas fuck I can't remember my LOTR stuff I'm too wrapped up in Game of Thrones now~

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or, because KC is an outdoors dungeon, you could just use harmony... ESPECIALLY if the mobs are yellow so your root stands a good chance of getting resisted............. wtf???

Is it? Hmmm... been a long time since I was in KC pulling for a group, but it is indoors. Oh well, never used harmony there, like I said my pref is not to use it anyway (if you bothered reading that as well). Sure yellows 'can' resist, so you pull two mobs, big deal. Was using it as an example. Ok pulling two blues if that is all your group can handle, maybe your root will stick to one. It's about convenience, not survival. If your group cant handle two yellows, they should go back outside to the wall. wtf, "WTF???"? Heck, I was in KC last year 2 boxing drui's on peq (same probs there that are here), running roots+dots on multiple yellows, works fine.

[Aadill]

It rains in Karnor's. It's an outside dungeon. It is literally outside, where Harmony works. Harmony works because Karnor's is an outside dungeon, because it rains.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It rains in Karnor's. It's an outside dungeon. It is literally outside, where Harmony works. Harmony works because Karnor's is an outside dungeon, because it rains.

Well, is KC the only dungeon/non-dungeon in the game, or did I just throw in a general example?(pick any dungeon!) Geez, people cant read, people cant think, only want to argue for arguments sake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aadill]

I think the point is situational awareness means a lot to a class that has a large utility belt such as bards, necros, and rangers. Two of those three have a large xp penalty. Two of those three get groups. The two in the first statement and the two in the second statement are not the same. Why? Because situational awareness is key and a lot of the times if you're not doing everything you can in a group the xp penalty that everyone incurs doesn't think it is worth it.

So, with that said, not using a set of very useful tools in a fashion that allows you to break camps, pull nameds past a slough of mobs, etc in outdoor areas as well as some indoor areas, CC mobs of any sort, and still pump out decent DPS and sometimes even tank... well... I wouldn't want that person in my group either.