"Need before greed"

[Hazek]

Been linking the item and saying "roll" and its been working.

Also 100% of items i've sold or bought have been the average wiki price

[bum3]

So what is it about p99 that lures in the poopsockers, greedy people, and general asshats? Is it because the nice, good people don't stick around? They get driven off? I mean for years there has been endless posts of people saying I loved blue until I reached 50 and had to deal with X people. Pre 50 people are generally nice. It's just 50 on teal/green is 35.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what is it about p99 that lures in the poopsockers, greedy people, and general asshats? Is it because the nice, good people don't stick around? They get driven off? I mean for years there has been endless posts of people saying I loved blue until I reached 50 and had to deal with X people. Pre 50 people are generally nice. It's just 50 on teal/green is 35.

My hunch is that, generally speaking, well-adjusted people aren't want to going to spend their time playing an emulator of a super grindy, very repetitive, very unforgiving 20-year-old game. Most of us having played original EQ are 30+ in age now and we're still spending a ton of our time playing video games so by definition we're pretty much manchildren. And to willingly spend a ton of time in a game like EverQuest, you're probably going to be pretty autistic.

[Grakken]

The only reason there are so many NBG PUGs this early on is because the majority of players need lots of gear. As soon as the masses start having gear in most slots people will start to resent under geared players expecting more loot than everyone else.


People will claim all sorts of altruism when it befits their self back patting narrative. In a year everyone will come to the conclusion NBG PUGs are dumb and the narrative will magically change.

[Kanuvan]

only these very forums would tell me im losing out on plat by rolling and winning on a high value item because my time spent selling that high value item could be spent farming pennies from HHK guards

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Kanuvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only these very forums would tell me im losing out on plat by rolling and winning on a high value item because my time spent selling that high value item could be spent farming pennies from HHK guards

other factors were mentioned like how you could be leveling which gives you access to more money making.

anyways, trying to be a greedy fuck in an emulator of a 21-year-old game is just sad and pathetic. ya'll need to chill - for your own sakes.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

other factors were mentioned like how you could be leveling which gives you access to more money making.

anyways, trying to be a greedy fuck in an emulator of a 21-year-old game is just sad and pathetic. ya'll need to chill - for your own sakes.

Wait, so wanting to have everyone random so that the chance is equal for the entire group makes you a greedy fuck, but staking claim to the item so that nobody else can have it is not? If you ask me, one of those is as fair as you can possible make it and the other is NBG.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so wanting to have everyone random so that the chance is equal for the entire group makes you a greedy fuck, but staking claim to the item so that nobody else can have it is not? If you ask me, one of those is as fair as you can possible make it and the other is NBG.

Sorry, I guess I'm just unfortunately afflicted with this thing called empathy and kindness. I've just always been okay with letting other people, yes basically strangers, getting upgrades for their gear in MMORPG video games and I've always appreciated people letting me get priority when an item is an upgrade for me.

Yes, sometimes people claim "need" when they don't really need or whatever because they're garbage human beings. But even though there are bad apples out there, I still try to give people the benefit of the doubt that they will be a decent human being.

That's just how I choose to treat it personally. I don't expect anyone else to do the same, but of course it's nice when they do too.

[Siege]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

other factors were mentioned like how you could be leveling which gives you access to more money making.

Yep. I also mentioned how he might miss out on future groups with one or more of the people who watched him take a potentially best-in-slot item from a caster, which could limit his access to better loot in the future.

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so wanting to have everyone random so that the chance is equal for the entire group makes you a greedy fuck, but staking claim to the item so that nobody else can have it is not? If you ask me, one of those is as fair as you can possible make it and the other is NBG.

Fairness is a subjective concept. I was simply pointing out the fact that there can be far-reaching consequences for giving in to pixel lust that you might not be aware of when a big-ticket item drops and your lizard brain takes over.

[Trexller]

Need Before Greed is just its own form of greed.

It eliminates the competition of other rollers and essentially guarantee the item drop is yours.

While the item may be an upgrade for you, even if the slot is occupied by cloth, you do not deserve 100% merit of the item, unless you killed the mob by yourself, while solo.

Any item, example a caster item, can be an upgrade for a melee character. Every item has value, and thus can be sold or exchanged for an upgrade for that melee player.

Vise Versa for that caster player too.

Every member of that group put in some kind of effort that resulted in the item drop.
Therefore every member should have the same chance at the item that drops.

The fact that you can equip the item immediately is a moot point. Everyone in your group is there for the same reason, to gain xp and hopefully improve their gear.

Groups should roll on every item that drops. So many people have forgotten, that you are entitled to Nothing.

A player who calls NBG on an item, is exercising a form of underhanded greed.

We all want gear, whether it be the item that we can immediately equip, or sell/trade for another item that we can use.

You are not special because you are currently wearing cloth.

Any group I've had the misfortune of joining that called NBG, I left.

I am here to play a game with you, I am not here to twink you.

/rant off