Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this - Page 89

cd288 · #**881** 12-01-2019, 10:29 AM

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I'm a bard you complete tool bag troll.

Ah so that explains it. You’re mad you can only AoE 4 mobs at a time and therefore think everyone else should be nerfed to help cure your saltiness. Good luck!

Wurl · #**882** 12-01-2019, 10:49 AM

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Ok hear me out

I read all of your post, thanks for the effort. I think there's a good discussion to be had about what exactly we should do to fix enchanters being un-classicly the highest DPS class.

cd288 · #**883** 12-01-2019, 11:11 AM

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I read all of your post, thanks for the effort. I think there's a good discussion to be had about what exactly we should do to fix enchanters being un-classicly the highest DPS class.

#OkNecro

Wurl · #**884** 12-01-2019, 11:17 AM

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#OkNecro

My main is enchanter, I'm just not pixel-poisoned. Your hashtag posting is cringe as heck though!

cd288 · #**885** 12-01-2019, 11:28 AM

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My main is enchanter, I'm just not pixel-poisoned. Your hashtag posting is cringe as heck though!

Okay Necro

WaffleztheAndal · #**886** 12-01-2019, 12:36 PM

I’m sure Nilbog and Co are keeping an eye on the situation. They have enacted unclassic raid changes to preserve balance before. If need be they will do so again.

anisoptera · #**887** 12-01-2019, 01:29 PM

comin in with my very first post on this forum just to say

balance is not classic

anisoptera · #**888** 12-01-2019, 01:42 PM

Also I rolled an enchanter partly because I wanted to be able to drop money on the ground and then Minor Illusion into it. Seems like MI doesn't work outside towns or something, and we can't drop money anyway, so my hoped experience as a talking piece of copper is ruined.

The real tragedy is Minor Illusion here. That should be the priority fix.

loramin · #**889** 12-01-2019, 02:10 PM

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This specific kind of troll hides its nature by pretending it lives under a rainbow, but its still just a troll.

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Look, people can attack me personally all they want. According to the forum rules those are supposed to stay in RnF, but /shrug.

Here's the thing though: attacking me personally won't change how EverQuest was back in 1999-2001.

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I’m sure Nilbog and Co are keeping an eye on the situation. They have enacted unclassic raid changes to preserve balance before. If need be they will do so again.

That is mostly correct, but look: Nilbog is only human, as a dedicated "classicist" he's only got two inputs to make anything in the game classic: evidence and player feedback. And because he cares so much about classic, he depends on them heavily. Thus, unclassic Enchanters make perfect sense: no one has surfaced obvious evidence of what P99 has wrong, so he hasn't fixed them yet.

But crucially, he doesn't just go by evidence! Take the AoE nerf: Nilbog did not retreat to a mountain, surveil the game and all available evidence, and then decide "The Overthere wasn't like this in 2000!"

... and can you blame him? If you're dedicated to classic and it's been 20 years since you saw live OT, you're not just going to change it without evidence based on your 20-year old feels. He needed the community to weigh in and say "this needs fixing to be classic" (and also, in that specific case, to be manageable for the all-volunteer staff, as AoE fights used up a lot of their time).

So once again, even though I believe Nilbog isn't a fanboy and cares far more about classic than me or probably anyone else in this thread ... I don't think we can just wait for him to look up from the code and decide that because the big picture isn't "1999", he needs to change it. I think we need to "make some noise", to encourage him to find a new, creative, and above all more classic set of mechanics.

Because again, without getting into the weeds of an specific mechanic change, and losing "the forest from the trees" ... it should be obvious to all who have played here and on live that P99 Enchanters are not yet classic.

Frostback · #**890** 12-01-2019, 02:27 PM

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I read all of your post, thanks for the effort. I think there's a good discussion to be had about what exactly we should do to fix enchanters being un-classicly the highest DPS class.

I think that's the point you're missing, enchanters are classicly the highest DPS class.

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proper manipulation of their spells will cause the enchanter to outperform any other class, it's just a matter of using the correct spell

https://web.archive.org/web/20000621...enc_ruri.shtml