Mages are up shit’s creek I guess

[Valion]

Dolalin already posted a patch note containing an increase in mage words dropping in some other bug report. By the time that patch rolls around the pet spells will already be added to the vendors . ie lost cause. I just haven't found it yet mainly because there is no point and I'm sure he already knows it.

[Keza]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Why do you use as many emotes as my 70 year old father does in every mundane text he sends? Legit asking. I don't know how to respond to 5-10 smiling/laughing faces per text. It's fucking weird.

And how is this thread 39 pages? I said on page 2. Just pay the trainer moneys. Then get the mats. Ezpz. If you want mage as your first class then level it as intended. You shouldn't be complaining about needing to level research anyway. Mages are braindead easy classes with as much depth as Senna's comments. All you do is sit there. In this case, you sit there and complain.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The selectively classic crowd will just say unless we can provide explicit patch note evidence that mage words should be X rate, that no change should be made because otherwise it would make it easier for mages. And then they'll go show you a forum post from some random dude from sometime in 1999 saying he knows what the drop rate is and it's X low frequency, so that's proof of what the drop rate should be.

Nailed it.
No one knows what drop rate were and are today.
But i can tell you we are freaking elites eq veterans killings efficiently with violence 24/7 on this server.
We are also at least double if not triple the number of people destroying all these monsters than during classic launch.

Now i will not say tht words drop less here since they were not even in the game at lunch. But the drop rate is far far far far lower than it should ever have been once the words were out.

If the staff wanted to help, they would have spoken already. This thread will soon be if not already the most viewed thread since green section opened.

I am pretty sure they can data mine the current drop rate. They will have all the evidence that what mages are ask for is insane. Imagine when many mage gestbto 24+, we are not even there yet. There wont be more of those target to kill, they are already getting destroyed as soons as they spawn.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one knows what drop rate were and are today..

There's very little reason to suppose they ever changed from the rates given on Magelo.

(After GZ increased them, of course)

Don't let me interrupt though.

[Ligma]

Gotta get the glory and prestige of being a server first on an emu of a 20 year old mmo

That's the thing. Most people are giving up the ability to be the first lvl 50 to be the 5th manastone.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by Keza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you use as many emotes as my 70 year old father does in every mundane text he sends? Legit asking. I don't know how to respond to 5-10 smiling/laughing faces per text. It's fucking weird.

And how is this thread 39 pages? I said on page 2. Just pay the trainer moneys. Then get the mats. Ezpz. If you want mage as your first class then level it as intended. You shouldn't be complaining about needing to level research anyway. Mages are braindead easy classes with as much depth as Senna's comments. All you do is sit there. In this case, you sit there and complain.

Your knowledge of this issue is grand it would look like.
You think with your blue experience, green dosent work like this.

Also the training part isnt really the problem even tho it caps very low. Materials don’t drop and you need around 12 different item per combine attempt on the last tier (not counting scroll)

10 the previous one, 8 the one before etc.

Good thing most wont stick to mages else all the lower zone would be perma raped by material seeking magicians.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Don't forget the very high Mage population. Not only large overall but also in respect to the population of the class during Classic.

ALL of whom are going to be searching for these research components.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget the very high Mage population. Not only large overall but also in respect to the population of the class during Classic.

ALL of whom are going to be searching for these research components.

Good thing according to the various counts post on this page its the least played caster after wizards.

But yeah, its more mages than at launch for sure. Big change for me i usually level a cleric first all the time. Mage looks like a fun class.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we all know what they can do and its not the gods of EQ far from it. We have all been playing that game for 20 years or close.

Most of you never played the first couple months [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It shows in here.

Yea it's quite funny honestly. Mages are strong generally speaking. But compared to Necros or Chanters?

[bwe]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea it's quite funny honestly. Mages are strong generally speaking. But compared to Necros or Chanters?

Someone needs to do Classic(tm) research on charming, charm lasts way too long here