Delay the launch...

[Jimjam]

Right. Lets say we're delaying Green release for 3-5 years. On Friday we'll wipe green beta to start green 'super beta' which will test out the patch timeline system. We'll all keep 'testing the game breaking bugs' on super beta, ready for true green in a few years time.

[Veeshan31]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right. Lets say we're delaying Green release for 3-5 years. On Friday we'll wipe green beta to start green 'super beta' which will test out the patch timeline system. We'll all keep 'testing the game breaking bugs' on super beta, ready for true green in a few years time.

You are a genius

[Kapyong]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were you using one of the Kunark weapons that won't be dropping after launch? They reverted those and deleted existing ones since the most recent patch.

Ah, that must have been it, thanks for letting me know Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(A high level character gave me the weapon, it was amazingly good, heaps of stats, super damage - don't know where it came from, don't even remember it's name.)

[Polycaster]

[QUOTE=Swyftfingers;2995523]true classic p99 museum experience, there's too many bugs to achieve that outcome.QUOTE]


Not enough bugs, actually. Poor testing and a shitty launch is 100% legit classic EQ.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off there is a metric shitload of things they could add to make green more classic. For those people who want to play as classic as possible that alone is enough of an issue for them to wait just a bit longer. But getting to bugs, as already mentioned being permanently snared and I just found my weapon vanished on looting. That's two major bugs just the last day or so.

We're not talking about making the game more classic. We're talking about major bugs/exploits. After you accused other people of moving the goalposts, you just went and tried to move them.

As people have said, just because a bug happened to you doesn't mean that it's a rampant issue. Unless you have a bunch of people experiencing said bug, you don't delay a launch over it. If one person reports a bug, you continue on with the launch and try and fix the bug as and when you can.

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The worst bug/exploits aren't going to be reported by 90% of the players because they will want to abuse them on release. We have to wait for the 10% to find them. Worse, the class ratios are completely out of whack. Like a buttload of mages/kiters/pet classes. Who knows what kind of bugs could await SK/paladins/rangers 40+.

I mean, I honestly just don't even know what to do with this response. "No one is going to report bugs so we should delay launch until they decide to." What??? And the class ratio argument is simply not a valid reason for delay. If there are bugs for the non-Bard hybrid classes, they will get discovered and quickly patched post-launch. Pretty much everyone who is going to play Green regularly are dedicated EQ/P99ers. Many of them have been playing on P99 for years. Some bugs that get fixed later aren't going to make everyone leave the server.

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now you give me a list of reasons you can't wait a little longer for something 10 years already in the making? Why should your demand to PLAY NOW DAMN IT, trump someone else who wants bugs as squashed as possible and as classic as possible? What makes you so special?

I don't need to give you a list of reasons why I can't wait, because I said I agreed with you in concept. If there are major and rampant documented bugs/exploits then the launch should be delayed. As such, myself and other commenters here have asked you and OP to provide a list of such issues so that we may educate ourselves and see if we agree that the launch should be delayed. The only major rampant bug you provided has already been quickly patched, and your argument for delaying the launch has been a vague standard of "well if one major rampant bug exists then that 100% means there are a bunch of others." Therefore, unless you can provide a list of ongoing major rampant bugs that have been reported by multiple people and have not been confirmed that they will be fixed by Friday, there's quite literally no reason to delay the launch.

As far as your question about making this as classic as possible, again we're not talking about that here. We're talking about bugs. Not the classic vs. non-classic argument, which is a completely separate argument.

[Indicas]

you don't have to play the game when its released, its that simple, if you think its buggy don't play! but don't sit here and try to change the process because it doesn't fit your idea, why is society like this now? not my president booo hooo yadda yadda

[Dolalin]

The agreement with Daybreak might also prevent them from moving the launch date. (talking completely out of my arse here)

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is nothing on green that is going to break the launch. We have launched blue and red successfully with different teething issues. Green will have some but it is ready to be ready and there is zero chance of delay.

Its a 12 / 10 best game experience situation and if all issues were resolved it would be like 14 / 10 best. Its ready to rock.

Mage pets being OP will break launch for sure. Mage pets, their spells, almost everything about magician will break the game. Just go to bugs/green bugs and look at the PROVEN RESEARCH about how mage pets were weaker, their summons were weaker, everything, for MONTHS...

Just wait until you get a load of the number of mages Green will have...this changes the entire feel of real classic launch era..affecting the ENTIRE server...not just me, but everyone.

Don't give me that crap about not worrying about what others play...I don't want 1/3 of the population to be a mage!

PS - Bring it on Baler, and whoever else that wants to go toe to toe with me about mages...I can't wait. Nerd battle.

I'm 110% down for a delay in launch. I don't even care they just marketed the date out there. A delay is ALWAYS better. Look at No Man's Sky...that game could have been one of the best launches of all time but they blew it.

[Sinistria]

He more likely wants to go on playing with the 10% exp boost...

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP is referring to himself in the third person.
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Slow down, Baler buddy.

Originally Posted by Swyftfingers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP (meaning Original Post) was about delaying the launch so the Beta phase has enough time to do it's job.