Mages were HORRIBLE at launch

[DMN]

I remember a lot of people being convinced that pet spells were harder to make, both necro and mages.

But I think the main problem was so many people had garbage for research skill since there wasn't an easy way to raise it. No one really cared that much about the other research spells so if they failed it was like "meh". But the pets? necro/mages won't soon stop ruminating on that, nor complaining about it on the internet.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: actually I spoke too soon, it only has this one, the news archive links don't work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Changes exclusive to the RZ server.

[Dolalin]

You're right, that patch is PvP servers only.

[Dolalin]

Based on things I've found last night and today, I've filed many new magician and a necro bug in the forums to get the classes timeline correct, especially around pets.

Make mages gimpy again!

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, that patch is PvP servers only.

Something that it made me remember was that invisibility could originally be cast on players not in your group...which sucked for mages as someone would randomly come by and invis you and kill your pet. I am not sure when they made invisibility a group spell.

No clue if p99 staff even know about this one...this one could be tough to find as i remember it changing maybe within 1 month in or so...

[DMN]

Remember how pets used to kill themselves?

Jobonker hits jobonker for 82946 damage.


I forget the exact number but ridiculously high. Might have just been a beta thing.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember how pets used to kill themselves?

Jobonker hits jobonker for 82946 damage.


I forget the exact number but ridiculously high. Might have just been a beta thing.

Yep, even a step further, they actually used to talk to you too...group members would screw with me and give my pet something like a chunk of clay, and he would start saying stuff like "Thank you, X, for the X, X, X....."

[DMN]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, even a step further, they actually used to talk to you too...group members would screw with me and give my pet something like a chunk of clay, and he would start saying stuff like "Thank you, X, for the X, X, X....."

Ya. Druids would always be feeding them grubs.

[Dolalin]

@Sunderfury:

The Spell Components not stacking was indeed the research words/runes/etc.

Also the Azia, Beza etc names on the words was not added until sometime later.

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Message ID: 722
Date: Fri Sep 10 12:03:53 BST 1999
Author: TkAdam@aol.com
Subject: Re: Unknown Words


In a message dated 9/10/99 3:27:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lomack@... writes:

> I have some questions about some words if any of you know the answers.
>
I cannot answer all, but I will try [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

> 1. I have about 7 words of Dominion but one of them won't stack with the
> rest? Is this bug from a word from before the stacking patch or is there
> some other use for a non stacking word?
>
It may be a leftover bug. if not, the NON stacking is for necro, but I
believe it is a leftover bug.

> 2. I have Words of Pacification and Words of Derivation. Can someone tell
> me what spells these are for? I looked all over a few sites that have
> research info and couldn't find either of these words listed.
>
Did you look at both Necromancer lists and Mage lists? Both use words... so
it could be for the other class if you are only looking at one.

Otherwise... I would not put it past verant to have some useless words out
there... jsut to confuse matters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (I am not complaining here... I think it
is not a bad idea... ads a little spice)

> 3. I have a Velishouls Tome Faded Page but it dosen't have a page number
> associated with it. I noticed on the lists that there are 2 versions of
> Faded pages for Velishouls Tome. One a page 16 and one a page 108. Does
> anyone know which version of the Faded page I have if it has no page
number?
>
may be a useless one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] as I mentioned above. or even possibly a mage
component? (guessing here...)

> 4. I have Words of the Sentient but there appear to be two different types
> one says "A.... the other B.... (I put dots in to signifify that I can't
> remember the rest of the word. But these A and B words are in parenthesies
> after the name of the Page. Any clue what each is for? I know Words of
> the Sentient are used for the Necro spell Restless Bones and Intensify
> Death. I assume one type is for each spell. Can someone tell me which is
> which?
>

This one I am fairly certain is were there is one for Necromancers, one for
Mages. as for which one is which, I do not ember, and you will have to try [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sonoroud Tomebinder, 24th level Necromancer, Veeshan

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember a lot of people being convinced that pet spells were harder to make, both necro and mages.

But I think the main problem was so many people had garbage for research skill since there wasn't an easy way to raise it. No one really cared that much about the other research spells so if they failed it was like "meh". But the pets? necro/mages won't soon stop ruminating on that, nor complaining about it on the internet.

Not only pets, but for necro you have Call of Bones at 34 which is HUGE, and then DMF at 44 and Lich at 49. The research problem is easily the biggest drawback to rolling mage or necro to start IMO. Maybe it won't be that bad but research can be a major pain in the ass and I think people used to blue don't realize how trivial getting their spells has been prior to this.

And now research components might not stack right away? Oof!