Should Manastone (and such) drop on Green?

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure there are a plenty of "normal"/decent people who missed out on a lot of these things the first time around in EQ, and the second time around on P99.

And their play wasn't affected, and continues to be unaffected, except for some nagging feeling of fear of missing out in their hindbrains. The only experience it removes is of hogging a camp and attempting to control an artificially inflated aspect of the economy due to foreknowledge of an item's nerf. And doing so in the most vital hub of xp and loot in the pre-planar classic late game, for no reason other than that's how long it took the original devs to finally say enough-is-enough and put an end to it.

Lguk is going to be enough of a shitshow already without a completely artificial motivation for people to go full lord of the flies over a vanity mask and a caster item that is rendered largely irrelevant by the planes and expansions.

[Cen]

I feel like its most classic to have the nerfed state of everything as it ends in velious from the beginning. It will be less classic for those unnerfed items to be known to get nerfed ahead of time changing all the players behavior in a non classic way. If everything has the stats it gets at end of velious everyone plays the game normally lol

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Keza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also for anyone considering blue's lifespan (postmortem) and post-green (after assimilation) well.. you're delusional and wasting whatever brainpower you might have. When green launches blue is officially dead. Just like red was after a few days. Your pixels will effectively be worth less than dogshit when green launches, and likewise when green assimilates all our pixels are trash. Enjoy the experience, not the grind.

Don't bet on it. I bet within a couple months when the novelty wears off, that blue has a higher prime time pop than green.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And their play wasn't affected, and continues to be unaffected, except for some nagging feeling of fear of missing out in their hindbrains. The only experience it removes is of hogging a camp and attempting to control an artificially inflated aspect of the economy due to foreknowledge of an item's nerf. And doing so in the most vital hub of xp and loot in the pre-planar classic late game, for no reason other than that's how long it took the original devs to finally say enough-is-enough and put an end to it.

Lguk is going to be enough of a shitshow already without a completely artificial motivation for people to go full lord of the flies over a vanity mask and a caster item that is rendered largely irrelevant by the planes and expansions.

What dipshitery is this? Of course removing items that someone never had the opportunit /experience of having is going to affect their play.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't bet on it. I bet within a couple months and the novelty wears off blue has a higher prime time pop than green.

Now that we know they plan to introduce custom content to blue at the same time as launching green I'd say its far more likely that green ends up as more of a niche server than it is that blue would be abandoned. The other likely scenario to me is that there will be a near even population split, which may just be a good thing for blue anyway.

People have LOTS of sunk time in blue, and many will be reluctant to give it up for the chance to get beat down by blue cons repeatedly and have nothing at all on a new server. You have to really want this experience to deal with all the shit the game is going to throw at you. All the resses, buffs, and gear people are used to leveling with are a year plus away. Raiding is a massive clusterfuck with no C2, no clicks, no 96% at all, and the planes being incredibly unforgiving and expensive corpse runs on top of it all.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What dipshitery is this? Of course removing items that someone never had the opportunit /experience of having is going to affect their play.

Yeah? What would you have done with a guise and a manastone that you've otherwise been unable to achieve?

[waffel]

Originally Posted by destrozi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Manastone, etc existed in the classic timeline, thus it will exist on green.

350 pings and server issues were classic, too. Will green have those to preserve the sanctity of ‘classic’?

[Worry]

Yes, but never nerf them.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now that we know they plan to introduce custom content to blue at the same time as launching green I'd say its far more likely that green ends up as more of a niche server than it is that blue would be abandoned. The other likely scenario to me is that there will be a near even population split, which may just be a good thing for blue anyway.

People have LOTS of sunk time in blue, and many will be reluctant to give it up for the chance to get beat down by blue cons repeatedly and have nothing at all on a new server. You have to really want this experience to deal with all the shit the game is going to throw at you. All the resses, buffs, and gear people are used to leveling with are a year plus away. Raiding is a massive clusterfuck with no C2, no clicks, no 96% at all, and the planes being incredibly unforgiving and expensive corpse runs on top of it all.

Custom content for blue is confirmed?

[kaizersoze]

the items were removed or nerfed for a reason. Leave them out.