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[Jimjam]

In bed on his notepad dual screening forumquest and dragonchase sim while two 5/7 broads sate his carnal needs.

Speaking of evolutionary theory, someone has snuck into lulz's niche!

[enesis]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Truth hurts. I posted my pic in the thread below this one if you wan't to see what a 6'4 alpha male looks like.

I bet you won't show us yours.

That's four. But in any event, I am married (to a woman), so you do not have to worry about proving how attractive and successful you are to me. I am taken and otherwise not your type.

[enesis]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously doubt that. Nobody who has anything to do plays P99.

I would rather ride the boat back and forth across ocean of tears than argue about trains with the NToV brain trust. Or sleep.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by enesis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's four. But in any event, I am married (to a woman), so you do not have to worry about proving how attractive and successful you are to me. I am taken and otherwise not your type.

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by enesis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You and like six other dudes in particular have been flipping shit in every thread that even tangentially concerns a rotation.

That's about the level of discourse here: it is Rants and Flames after all (not that it stays in this forum).

The group of "real men who compete through made-up unclassic mechanisms and believe everyone else is a loser/whiner/baby" do their best to drown out any actual meaningful dialog, while making no desire to actually convince anyone of anything except by shouting the loudest. And they are exactly who I've been railing against with all my "let's have an honest debate" stuff.

Thankfully, some people here aren't like that. I'll drag Champion through the mud any day of the weak for trying to claim that P99 "competition" is in any way classic, but I have so much respect for the guy for actually engaging. And he's not the only one: if you filter out the "shouters" there really has been an interesting dialog going on in this thread.

And that is what I hope my real audience sees. Not me "losing" the debate because a bunch of idiots keep trying to shout me down, but me having an interesting, not black and white (though obviously I feel my position is stronger) debate with the few people willing to have it, honestly, with me.

Ultimately, only one person's opinion on all this really matters (though I would think/hope that Rogean would consider the other GMs' opinions also). So I hope that if he/they read this thread, they are able to see past the fact that it's RNF and people yell a lot. I hope they can see some actual points being made on both sides about what's best for the server, and if they do I hope they'll see how much better for the server overall (not for RNF, and not for the top guilds) a rotation system would be,

[Terrel]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's about the level of discourse here: it is Rants and Flames after all (not that it stays in this forum).

The group of "real men who compete through made-up unclassic mechanisms and believe everyone else is a loser/whiner/baby" do their best to drown out any actual meaningful dialog, while making no desire to actually convince anyone of anything except by shouting the loudest. And they are exactly who I've been railing against with all my "let's have an honest debate" stuff.

Thankfully, some people here aren't like that. I'll drag Champion through the mud any day of the weak for trying to claim that P99 "competition" is in any way classic, but I have so much respect for the guy for actually engaging. And he's not the only one: if you filter out the "shouters" there really has been an interesting dialog going on in this thread.

And that is what I hope my real audience sees. Not me "losing" the debate because a bunch of idiots keep trying to shout me down, but me having an interesting, not black and white (though obviously I feel my position is stronger) debate with the few people willing to have it, honestly, with me.

Ultimately, only one person's opinion on all this really matters (though I would think/hope that Rogean would consider the other GMs' opinions also). So I hope that if he/they read this thread, they are able to see past the fact that it's RNF and people yell a lot. I hope they can see some actual points being made on both sides about what's best for the server, and if they do I hope they'll see how much better for the server overall (not for RNF, and not for the top guilds) a rotation system would be,

I'm not any good at RnF either, Loramin. Not my personality. But you hear lots of loud voices in here, eh?

FWIW, I agree with you, and I'm sure most do. Here are my thoughts on this matter:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...24#post2861024

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you refuse to do this, because you don't want to put even the smallest amount effort in. Instead you are following your r-selected evolutionary strategy of status signaling and manipulation. And you are getting told to fuck off. Newsflash: it's only going to get worse. We normal people have had enough insufferable tools like you destroying the country. And your epigenetics are simply not tuned for the imminent (more) k-selected future. If you toughen up a bit, your life from here will be one failure after another.

Except you forget I DID put the time and effort in. Years ago. I did some "poopmittening" (camping out for and tracking mobs nearing the end of window, not poopsocking the entire window.) I did the FTE races pulling Talendor, Gorenaire, and Sev.

It was all stupid and required me to be chained to a computer pressing track for hours at a time, understand all sorts of raid rules, sign up for a batphone, jump on at 4am on a weekend (wasn't going to answer batphones on a work night... that's where I drew the line) to help Vesica Dei or, later BDA, kill a raid mob.

Then some asshole troll who had access to our forums posted a RL pic of my guildleader for the RNF sociopaths to make fun of here, chasing her and the core of my guild off to another server to get away from the toxicity.

Those who were left mostly merged with BDA. So I did the raid shit with them for a while, but wasn't about to poopsock all of Velious so I quit. Came back, retired from raiding altogther, and just spending my time helping new players level and gear up.

I haven't the heart to tell them that certain groups of these people who have made this game an unhealthy obsession will never let them see certain content unless they join an uber guild and "put in the correct level of time/effort" mandated by server bullies who are dead set against them seeing any raid loot, who will go through legendary efforts to make sure they don't get any raid loot, and will actively rub it in their faces on the forums like a bunch of entitled asshole elitists.

So no, I have no need to join TAKP. My home, or whatever is left of it after toxic sociopaths chased the majority of my friends in two guilds away, is right here. I am done raiding, I am no threat to anyone's precious loot. Like I said, I know my place on the totem pole around here.

What pisses me off is that my place was decided for me by other players who somehow deemed themselves the arbiters of who deserves what, not by game mechanics or developers.

But hey, if it makes everyone feel better to call this competition "classic" every time there's an assault on the status quo, despite this level of competition was artificially created by having no progression beyond Velious and allowing players to gear their characters for 6+ years of Kunark, then so be it.

[America]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except you forget I DID put the time and effort in. Years ago. I did some "poopmittening" (camping out for and tracking mobs nearing the end of window, not poopsocking the entire window.) I did the FTE races pulling Talendor, Gorenaire, and Sev.

It was all stupid and required me to be chained to a computer pressing track for hours at a time, understand all sorts of raid rules, sign up for a batphone, jump on at 4am on a weekend (wasn't going to answer batphones on a work night... that's where I drew the line) to help Vesica Dei or, later BDA, kill a raid mob.

Then some asshole troll who had access to our forums posted a RL pic of my guildleader for the RNF sociopaths to make fun of here, chasing her and the core of my guild off to another server to get away from the toxicity.

Those who were left mostly merged with BDA. So I did the raid shit with them for a while, but wasn't about to poopsock all of Velious so I quit. Came back, retired from raiding altogther, and just spending my time helping new players level and gear up.

I haven't the heart to tell them that certain groups of these people who have made this game an unhealthy obsession will never let them see certain content unless they join an uber guild and "put in the correct level of time/effort" mandated by server bullies who are dead set against them seeing any raid loot, who will go through legendary efforts to make sure they don't get any raid loot, and will actively rub it in their faces on the forums like a bunch of entitled asshole elitists.

So no, I have no need to join TAKP. My home, or whatever is left of it after toxic sociopaths chased the majority of my friends in two guilds away, is right here. I am done raiding, I am no threat to anyone's precious loot. Like I said, I know my place on the totem pole around here.

What pisses me off is that my place was decided for me by other players who somehow deemed themselves the arbiters of who deserves what, not by game mechanics or developers.

But hey, if it makes everyone feel better to call this competition "classic" every time there's an assault on the status quo, despite this level of competition was artificially created by having no progression beyond Velious and allowing players to gear their characters for 6+ years of Kunark, then so be it.

let the thread know if ur gullet's been stretched enough yet to fit this post down it

[ReadOnly]

There's a reason no one is even attempting to seriously discuss the issue in the 5+ day old thread https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=320575

No one wants to seriously debate or even discuss this. The fact that this conversation is even occurring in RnF is a travesty. Nothing good can come from posting in here, ever.

[Ravager]

Good things happen in RnF. It's where Swish gets banned.