Is it legal to repeatedly kill a quest mob just to prevent others from getting?

[delusion]

Just cause a class can SoW themselves doesn't mean Jboots aren't still a useful item to have. There's been many times a insta click run speed increase has saved me a death. I don't disagree with you on the rest, though.

Honestly, though, you'd probably be better off just saving up for the MQ despite the fact that it kinda sucks to have to go that route. There's plenty of money making guides in the wiki where you could have that 5k - 6k by mid teens or early 20's.

I've done 2 Jboots on two characters on this server, one I farmed plat while leveling and playing the game, one I got on the list in Oot. The prior was definitely the more enjoyable route. Ymmv.

[Venjenz]

Originally Posted by Shanst [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's hope the op isn't a mage. Going to have another rude awakening when he tries to get his epic....

Indeed. If they hated rangers/druids before...

[stebbins99]

When I opened this thread I was half-expecting someone to be complaining about evil classes killing Captain Bosec (for exp) down in the HHK basement. My Ikky Monk initially had no idea why some lvl 15 was pissed/screaming about "goblin ears" as I went about my guard-pulling duties! Hah. I made sure to let them do their turn-ins before we pulled the next time

[XeroKill]

Originally Posted by Doil_Boil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, I really dislike the term “git gud”, because in this game it mostly just means “spend more time”. It’s not like you practice getting good at EQ like you can at most skills and expect better results. The game isn’t hard.

1) It was a generic insult, as in git gud at life, as in don't be a scrub that whines about the inequities in life, but rather, improves themselves to better the odds.

2) There is absolutely skill involved in this game, or any game for that matter, and you damn well know it. There are people that can play their characters like a symphony conductor and then there are people that keyboard turn, don't macro, click spells and can't find their way through EC with a map and a tour guide. They have poor reaction timing, limited spatial awareness, zero knowledge of game mechanics, and no desire to improve any of those attributes but would rather complain about how terribly unfair it all is.

Shit players absolutely exist in this game, and odds are, if you have never spotted one... it's you.

[Maliant]

“Chances are if you can’t spot the the sucker, you are the sucker.” -Mike McDermott.

[maximillian_Swift]

Originally Posted by XeroKill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then there are people that keyboard turn

HA WHAT? is that truly a complaint some people have???

[7thGate]

You can do the quest as designed with a little persistence, though you want to do it in the Ocean of Tears. JBoots are common in ALS, and since we don't MQ anything everyone needed to camp their own. We're had a number of events where we take a group and go hold down the camp for a while, and while it is contested enough that you can't just walk up and expect it to always be free, it varies a lot and is not always that bad. My boots took 6 hours total the time I got mine, and we got two in a 5 hour camp the other time I led a group there.

More than just mobility though, they're another instant click junk buff. As a Rogue, it was much easier to get to 4 with them (J Boots, Coldain Ring 8, Goblin Earring, Telescope) to absorb quad dispels. Between that, the ability to instantly reapply when they wear off or get dispelled and the bag space improvements from not needing to lug around stacks of SOW potions and the time saved in getting refreshes on stock, I've been very happy with my J Boots and would not recommend the SOW pot route.

I just wish I could use them in Halls of Testing, since then I wouldn't get partially buff stripped by Glimmer drakes. At least the other clickies usually let me protect haste and a few other buffs if I order by buff stack correctly.

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can do the quest as designed with a little persistence, though you want to do it in the Ocean of Tears. JBoots are common in ALS, and since we don't MQ anything everyone needed to camp their own. We're had a number of events where we take a group and go hold down the camp for a while, and while it is contested enough that you can't just walk up and expect it to always be free, it varies a lot and is not always that bad. My boots took 6 hours total the time I got mine, and we got two in a 5 hour camp the other time I led a group there.

More than just mobility though, they're another instant click junk buff. As a Rogue, it was much easier to get to 4 with them (J Boots, Coldain Ring 8, Goblin Earring, Telescope) to absorb quad dispels. Between that, the ability to instantly reapply when they wear off or get dispelled and the bag space improvements from not needing to lug around stacks of SOW potions and the time saved in getting refreshes on stock, I've been very happy with my J Boots and would not recommend the SOW pot route.

I just wish I could use them in Halls of Testing, since then I wouldn't get partially buff stripped by Glimmer drakes. At least the other clickies usually let me protect haste and a few other buffs if I order by buff stack correctly.

Yeah.. Do not choose to stuff your bags full of sow pots... Pay the 5k, and get to clickin.. One day you'll pay that off. You'll never see an end to buying sow pots..

[XeroKill]

Originally Posted by maximillian_Swift [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HA WHAT? is that truly a complaint some people have???

Not nearly as detrimental in a slow paced, primarily PVE oriented game like EQ, but try playing keyboard turn against a mouse-looker in any competitive PVP and you will see how some skills are superior to others in every single way. Even in non-competitive PVE, the difference is pretty significant. When I first started playing EQ in 1999 I was not only a keyboard turner but I used the arrow keys instead of WASD, and I mouse clicked everything... and if I was playing with or against that version of myself, I would dominate him in every single endeavor, full stop.

Just one tiny example of the difference: In WoW as any class with an instant ranged attack, while running forward you can jump in the air, spin 180 degrees, launch an attack against your pursuer, and turn another 180 degrees to land facing the same direction you were moving and never lose a bit of forward momentum. You can NOT accomplish this through keyboard turning.

That is a skill, and people that have it are better than those that don't. The ones that don't have it either work to get it or go on forums and complain about how this, that and the other thing are unfair and imbalanced... rather than having the grit to recognize their own short comings and strive to improve their skill set.

TL;DR Git gud!

[GnomeCaptain]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've found if you are in zone and lose FTE race some of the regular J boot farmers of the past would accept a very significant discount if you offer to pay for loot rights, saving the farmer the bother of corpsing and MQing the ring.

Maybe not the solution you are looking for but it maybe a workable compromise.

Thanks, but the scum I see in S Ro aren't into that.

Just last night a druid (Druins) KS'd the first AC to ever spawn near me. It spawned near me, I was there first, I tash'd, he stepped in and rooted and nuked. AC KS'd.

He invited me to group, said I could loot and he'd have me suspended. I let him use lawyer-bs to threaten me into rolling for it, so I did. And I don't win rolls.

So I blame myself for succumbing to his threats.

But ya, AC was KS'd.

Neutral third party witness called him out for the KS in /ooc as it happened.