Hyjal > Bellringer

[Sonderbeast]

The real reason Tempest is called TP is because you need a lot of TP when u drop a Bellringer.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That’s not how earthquakes work or used to rather.

I gave this a second thought and realize that the behavior I was describing was when P99Earthquakes did not affect raid mob timers. This was especially annoying when multiple people had access to the raid timer sheet and did not realize this.

I believe P99Earthquakes currently change the mob timer windows soon as they are killed. So with that change in mind, an earthquake-Vulak killed when the normal spawn one was already alive would result in seemingly one less Vulak unless some funky chicken magic occurred sometime later which seems unlikely.

My mistake.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we know that tempest turned down the offer of vyemm loot + half of vulak with a roll off for first pick of loot. Was a counter offer from tempest ever made? Just curious what their goal was / is here, and what they think is fair? Or are their leaders just enjoying holding the server hostage at the expense of loot for their own Guildmembers?

This whole situation makes me think that the rules of conceding a mob need to be modified where there is a time limit on the concession. I.e. guild A pulls a dragon to the ent and wipes, causing other guilds at ent to die, so they concede the right to attempt the dragon again for 48 hours (for example) giving the affected guild / guilds plenty of time to have a clean attempt at it.

Here's the counter offer:

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[rezzie]

Originally Posted by Konfetti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, the Vyemm loot isn't really an offer, since it was already conceded.

Except not really. Even though he is conceded, Tempest have no way of killing him without sacrificing a shot at Vulak. What Aftermath offered was a way for them to get that loot and have free Vulak loot.

Perhaps some Tempest members will see how brain dead the decision to turn it down was, as it hurts their own members more than Aftermath. We lose half of Vulak loot, but they lose 100% of Vyemm loot and half of free Vulak loot.

It’s also cost them a Zlandicar and it’ll probably cost them some members who realise they didn’t join a raiding guild that wants to compete, but one that wants to get loot through backroom deals and lawyerquesting. The last few cycles have shown how much they suffer when they’re forced to compete for mobs instead of having to rely on questionable tactics to force concessions.

Yes some in Aftermath are frustrated at the extended socking, but I would bet there is more discontent in the censored members in Tempest who have been denied the chance to be outbid on some BIS gear by Kelz.

[Detoxx]

As you can see, I did not offer them a Vyemm, I simply said "you kill Vyemm and well kill Vulak".

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how many DKP is green scale

my soul

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the counter offer:

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You won’t win. Tempest is shit. Wouldn’t even bother talking to them.


Off hand how long does it take you to kill vulak.

If I could stall vyemm for as long as you take to pull and kill I will, for 500k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jk

I would do it for free just to watch flickk cry in her poop soup.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also Giants suck

Yes, yes they do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another year down the shitter.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You won’t win. Tempest is shit. Wouldn’t even bother talking to them.


Off hand how long does it take you to kill vulak.

If I could stall vyemm for as long as you take to pull and kill I will, for 500k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jk

I would do it for free just to watch flickk cry in her poop soup.

We can work something out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It generally takes around 15 mins to kill it though so need a good force!

[Sonderbeast]

Has Tupac inherited the mantle of LORD BOB?!