I invite anyone to have a regular discussion about guns, feel free to ask anything

[DinoTriz]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well for one of the two things you need a licence, the other one you can buy from a dude on a wallmart parking lot.

Citizens don't have a fundamental right to own and drive cars.

[Raavak]

Driving is legally a privilege.

[Wonkie]

rights and priviledges aren't very different in democracy. felons and crazies have been deprived of their "right" to own guns by popular vote. constitution cosplay is fun but the mob does what it wants.

[Irulan]

The right to drive and own a car isn't enumerated specifically.

When we enumerate rights in the constitution we place limits on what the government can and can't do. THE GOVERNMENT can't make laws about peoples sex, because that shit is enumerated to have no laws made that discriminate against a persons sex.

When we don't enumerate those rights, it's no holds barred unless it abridges one of our other rights.

I mean technically everything could boil down to the "life and liberty" language.

Life > Liberty > free expression > pursuit of happiness IMO how the founders wanted it.

Your not allowed to abridge peoples life, liberty, or the free expression (which maintains democracy) for your own happiness.... aka if guns or gays make u unhappy ur not allowed to limit someones free expression or liberty just to feel better.

thats how it's supposed to work but we have a bunch of paranoid retarded angry evangelical neeglettes running the show via siphoning off 1% of all corporate church proceeds from hobby lobby and gays like Tony Perkins and groups like the Heritage Foundation and ACLJ.

Who don't understand these things and are creating abject ignorance of our system of government. Through kneegarz like Trump who can't even be botthered to sit 8 minutes through a reading of the bill of rights.

Also dumbass kids and shitty teachers in school are actually way more to blame than anyone else. Because u shouldn't LIVE past kindergarten without understanding the bill of rights and having to re-enact the revolutionary war with blackpowder and muskets and 1776 level medical technology. AND NO ELECTRICITY OR CELLPHONES WITH ANGRY BIRDS AND FACKBOOK ON THEM.

P.S. You're not rly American if you've never fired a blackpowder musket or lived in the woodz without electricity and bug repellant and modern amenities.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rights and priviledges aren't very different in democracy. felons and crazies have been deprived of their "right" to own guns by popular vote. constitution cosplay is fun but the mob does what it wants.

Do you know what the suprime court is or are you saying 12 judges is a mob?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you know what the suprime court is or are you saying 12 judges is a mob?

12?

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[Wonkie]

yeah, he got me. fuck you mick.

[Irulan]

I don't like how people get to be on the SC, it's entirely 2 arbitrary and undemocratic.

[mickmoranis]

Well it’s time for liberals to remind us on social media that saying thoughts and prayers doesn’t help.

But for them to follow that with claims that banning assault rifles is the solution turn to this problem, or increasing background checks or some other stupid idea will work.

Meanwhile they ignore that this kid used a pistol and a shotgun, he stole from his father who has a perfect background without any blemishes.

So ONCE AGAIN I remind you that there is NO SUCH THING as common sense gun control.

Thoughts and prayers to the victims.

[Irulan]

I'm praying for the men and males of this country. They aren't getting something they need.